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Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 5:44 pm
by Donny osmond
Website containing the list of names of all the journalists who have died is suspicious or unnatural circumstances since Putin came to power, 1999-2015. All 205 of them. 205 people who had the courage to ask questions of Putin, and who now no longer grace this earth. 205.

https://web.archive.org/web/20150401205 ... ussia.org/

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:03 pm
by Zhivago
Your link includes accidents.

52 murders according to the following website:
https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

Bit much to ascribe the motive of all muders to Putin, although I'm sure some are. You can read about the individual cases.

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:06 pm
by cashead
So how many one-offs are we going to get?

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:31 pm
by Zhivago
cashead wrote:So how many one-offs are we going to get?
Quit policing my posting, dickhead. Seriously.

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:39 pm
by cashead
Zhivago wrote:
cashead wrote:So how many one-offs are we going to get?
Quit policing my posting, dickhead. Seriously.
Now that's rich coming from you.

Besides, you can't make a big song and dance about how you're never posting here again, and expect not to get called out on it, especially when you turn up and make a song and dance about how your first post back is only a "one-off."

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:51 pm
by Zhivago
cashead wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
cashead wrote:So how many one-offs are we going to get?
Quit policing my posting, dickhead. Seriously.
Now that's rich coming from you.

Besides, you can't make a big song and dance about how you're never posting here again, and expect not to get called out on it, especially when you turn up and make a song and dance about how your first post back is only a "one-off."
I'm not going to justify myself to you, you arrogant bastard. If I want to return to posting here I will. Leave it.

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:54 pm
by Donny osmond
Is 52 ok then?

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 8:56 pm
by Zhivago
Donny osmond wrote:Is 52 ok then?
Strawman much?

No, it's not. It's super high. Journalists should be free to work without such danger.

Of course you can check the details of each murder to see the motive. Interesting if facts are your thing...

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2016 9:03 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Zhivago wrote:
cashead wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
Quit policing my posting, dickhead. Seriously.
Now that's rich coming from you.

Besides, you can't make a big song and dance about how you're never posting here again, and expect not to get called out on it, especially when you turn up and make a song and dance about how your first post back is only a "one-off."
I'm not going to justify myself to you, you arrogant bastard. If I want to return to posting here I will. Leave it.
You can't reasonably call him arrogant whilst refusing to justify your return and instructing him how he should post. It's good to see you back but he's got every right to post as well, including pointing out your flounce.

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:35 am
by Zhivago
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Zhivago wrote:
cashead wrote:
Now that's rich coming from you.

Besides, you can't make a big song and dance about how you're never posting here again, and expect not to get called out on it, especially when you turn up and make a song and dance about how your first post back is only a "one-off."
I'm not going to justify myself to you, you arrogant bastard. If I want to return to posting here I will. Leave it.
You can't reasonably call him arrogant whilst refusing to justify your return and instructing him how he should post. It's good to see you back but he's got every right to post as well, including pointing out your flounce.
Why should I justify my return?

Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 5:41 am
by Lizard
Geez, where have you been mate? The knicker knotting shop?

Re: RE: Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:03 am
by Donny osmond
Zhivago wrote:Your link includes accidents.

52 murders according to the following website:
https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

Bit much to ascribe the motive of all muders to Putin, although I'm sure some are. You can read about the individual cases.
Its really wasnt much of a strawman. The OP stated there are 205 unnatural/unexplained deaths of journos who have criticized Putin. Not 205 murders, altho its not really "a bit much" attributing the "accidents" on that list to Putin either.

Re: RE: Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:35 am
by Zhivago
Donny osmond wrote:
Zhivago wrote:Your link includes accidents.

52 murders according to the following website:
https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

Bit much to ascribe the motive of all muders to Putin, although I'm sure some are. You can read about the individual cases.
Its really wasnt much of a strawman. The OP stated there are 205 unnatural/unexplained deaths of journos who have criticized Putin. Not 205 murders, altho its not really "a bit much" attributing the"accidents" on that list to Putin either.
Not sure why you put that in speech marks unless you think the OP's link is pro-Putin propaganda or something.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Sobering reality check

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 7:42 am
by Donny osmond
Zhivago wrote:
Donny osmond wrote:
Zhivago wrote:Your link includes accidents.

52 murders according to the following website:
https://cpj.org/killed/europe/russia/

Bit much to ascribe the motive of all muders to Putin, although I'm sure some are. You can read about the individual cases.
Its really wasnt much of a strawman. The OP stated there are 205 unnatural/unexplained deaths of journos who have criticized Putin. Not 205 murders, altho its not really "a bit much" attributing the"accidents" on that list to Putin either.
Not sure why you put that in speech marks unless you think the OP's link is pro-Putin propaganda or something.
Just trying to indicate that I dont believe they are accidents at all