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ITV's coverage
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:24 pm
by Puja
Whisper it quietly, but they appear not to be particularly obnoxious this time around. Wilkinson looks much more functional as a pundit when paired with Alphonsi and O'Driscoll (especially compared to his usual seething irritation when he's in the same studio as Woodward) and the commentary was perfectly functional.
No doubt it'll get worse, as Woodward and Dallaglio are still on the payroll, but the A-team here made it a good experience.
Puja
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:54 pm
by ad_tigger
I have no time at all for Pugatch though and the set looks like a general election leaders debate. I was expecting Maggie Alphonsi to accuse O'Driscoll of taking our industrial heartlands for granted. Also, Pugatch has no place in rugby broadcasting, he looks like a motion capture performance by Andy Serkis played over an avatar of a bored double glazing salesman who wants a career change
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:39 am
by Which Tyler
ad_tigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:54 pm
I have no time at all for Pugatch though and the set looks like a general election leaders debate. I was expecting Maggie Alphonsi to accuse O'Driscoll of taking our industrial heartlands for granted. Also, Pugatch has no place in rugby broadcasting, he looks like a motion capture performance by Andy Serkis played over an avatar of a bored double glazing salesman who wants a career change
Fair, but... I still have nightmares of this guy anchoring the coverage.
FTR, I've yet to see a virtual studio that didn't look like shit.
I'll agree with Puja that this is ITV's best RWC performance to date - but I'll add that A] it's early days yet, and B] that's an incredibly low bar to trip over - I've seen lowered pavements more challenging!
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 11:40 am
by Son of Mathonwy
ad_tigger wrote: ↑Fri Sep 08, 2023 10:54 pm
I have no time at all for Pugatch though and the set looks like a general election leaders debate. I was expecting Maggie Alphonsi to accuse O'Driscoll of taking our industrial heartlands for granted. Also, Pugatch has no place in rugby broadcasting, he looks like
a motion capture performance by Andy Serkis played over an avatar of a bored double glazing salesman who wants a career change
Poetry.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 2:51 pm
by Danno
Nah, it's guff.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 3:07 pm
by Dan. Dan. Dan.
Pretty sure I just heard the Ireland-Romania commentator call Gordon D'Arcy Brian...
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:08 pm
by wanderingjock
In a separate incident that person who talks at the same volume and pitch no matter what is going on said.... 'now they've got the go between their teeth'....
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 7:56 pm
by Which Tyler
Sean Gregan
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:57 pm
by Puja
It appears I went too early.
Puja
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:03 pm
by BaldiePete
Could the commentator please manage to get through a few minutes without mentioning an English club or the ground they play at?
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:08 pm
by Puja
BaldiePete wrote: ↑Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:03 pm
Could the commentator please manage to get through a few minutes without mentioning an English club or the ground they play at?
No. Next question?
Puja
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:23 pm
by Sourdust
I think it's fair to say that if you'd never seen ITV coverage of previous RWCs, you'd think this was laughably bad. But it's actually a bit better than usual.
BTW I know this isn't specifically ITVs fault, but WTF with these shallow-depth-of-field cameras on the touchline, and now also on players after scores? Maybe it's just me, but the "Tilt-Shift" effect completely takes me out of the match atmos - something ITV coverage in particular could do without.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:25 pm
by Puja
Entertaining article ripping it to pieces here:
https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2F ... hip-debate
"For the causal viewer tuning in at primetime on Saturday, a slot where ITV viewers are accustomed to seeing Ant and Dec or a dog that can say sausages, we instead got four bloody good blokes in navy blazers/suits and open-necked shirts chatting stiffly about focus, clarity and visualising. If you want to know what “LinkedIn: The TV Series” would feel like, here you go.
Sir Clive, in particular, looks at risk of sharing some blue-sky views vis-a-vis corporate synergy at any moment. They stood behind podiums in a horseshoe formation, fostering the most unwelcome sense that we were witnessing a Tory leadership contest, and given the revolving door in that office, who is to say that Sir Clive or Big Loz cannot be there or thereabouts when Rishi’s time comes to spend more time with his wife’s bazillions?"
Puja
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:19 pm
by Son of Mathonwy
Puja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:25 pm
Entertaining article ripping it to pieces here:
https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2F ... hip-debate
"For the causal viewer tuning in at primetime on Saturday, a slot where ITV viewers are accustomed to seeing Ant and Dec or a dog that can say sausages, we instead got four bloody good blokes in navy blazers/suits and open-necked shirts chatting stiffly about focus, clarity and visualising. If you want to know what “LinkedIn: The TV Series” would feel like, here you go.
Sir Clive, in particular, looks at risk of sharing some blue-sky views vis-a-vis corporate synergy at any moment. They stood behind podiums in a horseshoe formation, fostering the most unwelcome sense that we were witnessing a Tory leadership contest, and given the revolving door in that office, who is to say that Sir Clive or Big Loz cannot be there or thereabouts when Rishi’s time comes to spend more time with his wife’s bazillions?"
Puja
Jeez, give them chairs. Question Time is far more relaxed.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 7:24 am
by Beasties
Puja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:25 pm
Entertaining article ripping it to pieces here:
https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2F ... hip-debate
"For the causal viewer tuning in at primetime on Saturday, a slot where ITV viewers are accustomed to seeing Ant and Dec or a dog that can say sausages, we instead got four bloody good blokes in navy blazers/suits and open-necked shirts chatting stiffly about focus, clarity and visualising. If you want to know what “LinkedIn: The TV Series” would feel like, here you go.
Sir Clive, in particular, looks at risk of sharing some blue-sky views vis-a-vis corporate synergy at any moment. They stood behind podiums in a horseshoe formation, fostering the most unwelcome sense that we were witnessing a Tory leadership contest, and given the revolving door in that office, who is to say that Sir Clive or Big Loz cannot be there or thereabouts when Rishi’s time comes to spend more time with his wife’s bazillions?"
Puja
Tory leadership contest gave me the proper shivers.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:20 am
by Son of Mathonwy
Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:19 pm
Puja wrote: ↑Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:25 pm
Entertaining article ripping it to pieces here:
https://12ft.io/proxy?&q=https%3A%2F%2F ... hip-debate
"For the causal viewer tuning in at primetime on Saturday, a slot where ITV viewers are accustomed to seeing Ant and Dec or a dog that can say sausages, we instead got four bloody good blokes in navy blazers/suits and open-necked shirts chatting stiffly about focus, clarity and visualising. If you want to know what “LinkedIn: The TV Series” would feel like, here you go.
Sir Clive, in particular, looks at risk of sharing some blue-sky views vis-a-vis corporate synergy at any moment. They stood behind podiums in a horseshoe formation, fostering the most unwelcome sense that we were witnessing a Tory leadership contest, and given the revolving door in that office, who is to say that Sir Clive or Big Loz cannot be there or thereabouts when Rishi’s time comes to spend more time with his wife’s bazillions?"
Puja
Jeez, give them chairs. Question Time is far more relaxed.
I hadn't paid much attention to this but I took another look at the Welsh match yesterday and . . . what's even more bizarre is that the pre-match coverage has them behind podiums, for the half time analysis the same team are seated around a glowing ITV coffee table and post-match they're back behind podiums. WTF? Just let them stay in chairs for god's sake.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:51 am
by Numbers
The fact Greenwood is not on the list of punits is to be rejoiced, Rory Best is poor, Jamie Roberts looks like someone has drawn the hair onto his head.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:30 am
by Mikey Brown
Sourdust wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 4:23 pm
I think it's fair to say that if you'd never seen ITV coverage of previous RWCs, you'd think this was laughably bad. But it's actually a bit better than usual.
BTW I know this isn't specifically ITVs fault, but WTF with these shallow-depth-of-field cameras on the touchline, and now also on players after scores? Maybe it's just me, but the "Tilt-Shift" effect completely takes me out of the match atmos - something ITV coverage in particular could do without.
This is pissing me off too. Is this somebody's idea of making rugby look "cinematic"? As if that's a thing that needs to happen. Given they are so far from the crowd/background anyway it just makes them look like they're super-imposed or are dialling in on Teams with a blurred background.
The audio is fucking terrible as well. Commentators blaring at you about the incredible atmosphere and you can barely hear the crowd.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 9:23 pm
by Danno
The LinkedIn gag tickled me
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2023 10:37 pm
by Sourdust
Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Tue Sep 12, 2023 11:30 am
This is pissing me off too. Is this somebody's idea of making rugby look "cinematic"? As if that's a thing that needs to happen. Given they are so far from the crowd/background anyway it just makes them look like they're super-imposed or are dialling in on Teams with a blurred background.
It's even happening on S4C's coverage of the Welsh Prem now. You cut straight from an "Instagram Portrait Filter" of a lineout, to a wide shot in conventional focus / grading, and it's like nails down an effing blackboard.
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2023 10:26 pm
by Danno
Oh great, now there's a couple of ladies being psuedo teabagged in the turnover demonstration
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:10 pm
by Buggaluggs
Soooo...the coverage is getting better then
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:37 pm
by canta_brian
Not only is the coverage poor, ITV X is without doubt the worst catch up service. Matches take days to be available it seems
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:33 pm
by bruce
Flats is so much better than Poogash
Re: ITV's coverage
Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2023 4:33 pm
by bruce
The Welsh seems very good as well