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I bet they're farkin quaking.

I think we have to take Moriarity.

JUST Moriarty.

That would be a start. He needs a transfer to Swansea Ospreys.

You can't help but feel a little sorry for New Zealand.

3-0

I think we'll be butfucked so hard they might win 4-0 despite us only playing 3.

would that be a bonus point?

UKHamlet wrote:I think we'll be butfucked so hard they might win 4-0 despite us only playing 3.

We have a midweek game so anything is possible.

Sandydragon wrote:

UKHamlet wrote:I think we'll be butfucked so hard they might win 4-0 despite us only playing 3.

We have a midweek game so anything is possible.

That game is against the Chiefs: 2 championships in the last 4 years, just beat a shadow Pumas team (14 of the Jaguares starting XV were in the Pumas RWC squad , I think) and Arg are ranked less than 1 point behind Wales.

May the best team win.

Id like to see Nicky Smith, Elliot Dee, Dillon Lewis (although I probably wouldnt take him because of the U20 RWC),and Moriaty go.

I imagine Halfpenny and Scott Williams will be back to boost the backs.

If we are going to take Nipper, Id like to see him on the bench, otherwise, just dont take him.

Id like us to magic up a wing from somewhere, as none of the options outside of North have looked International quality this 6N.

Could do alot worse than bringing Owen Williams in.

Looked very good @ 12 today not as good as when he plays 10 but still very good, passing has improve a lot with Mauger.

Aside from Scott Williams, we also have Owen Watkin to consider at IC. He looks to have a good all round game and will surely feature at some point.

I saw Steff Evans on TV score a couple of good tries a few weeks ago - is he a real contender? Seemed to have genuine pace and elusiveness.

hawkaye wrote:I saw Steff Evans on TV score a couple of good tries a few weeks ago - is he a real contender? Seemed to have genuine pace and elusiveness.

Very impressive from the little we've seen so far. Hopefully he can put in some more eyecatching performances before the end of the season. Might be a better prospect than Amos, but very early days.

But let's not forget Ashton Hewitt who's scored 7 tries so far for the Dragons this season, some against decent opposition too (Leinster, Glasgow, Sale, Connacht).

IMO sending the first choice squad down south is not just pointless, but tantamount to criminal negligence.

Our players are knackered, that much is obvious. As a squad they're past their prime, and while I wouldn't dispense with many (if any) of them yet, we desperately need some fresh blood and to let players like AWJ and Faletau have a couple of weeks on a beach.

Please don't tell me we need our full squad to beat the All Blacks. A scratch squad of fired-up youngsters has just as much chance, i.e. none at all. And we might just get a few of them battle-hardened enough to make an impact next year.

Sourdust wrote:IMO sending the first choice squad down south is not just pointless, but tantamount to criminal negligence.

Our players are knackered, that much is obvious. As a squad they're past their prime, and while I wouldn't dispense with many (if any) of them yet, we desperately need some fresh blood and to let players like AWJ and Faletau have a couple of weeks on a beach.

Please don't tell me we need our full squad to beat the All Blacks. A scratch squad of fired-up youngsters has just as much chance, i.e. none at all. And we might just get a few of them battle-hardened enough to make an impact next year.

Well, sending a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers south under a coach with a clear vision seemed to (briefly) pay off for England in 1998. I'm not sure that Welsh fans have the patience to wait 5 years for the payoff, or that Gatland intends to be around for that long.

I would rather see your best players, please. Smacking a bunch of schoolboys around will be no sort of preparation for the Championship.

Sourdust wrote:IMO sending the first choice squad down south is not just pointless, but tantamount to criminal negligence.

Our players are knackered, that much is obvious. As a squad they're past their prime, and while I wouldn't dispense with many (if any) of them yet, we desperately need some fresh blood and to let players like AWJ and Faletau have a couple of weeks on a beach.

Please don't tell me we need our full squad to beat the All Blacks. A scratch squad of fired-up youngsters has just as much chance, i.e. none at all. And we might just get a few of them battle-hardened enough to make an impact next year.

This just does not compute, man.

NZ are the best. We must send our best. Simple. They do have a chance, and even if/when we lose it won't be by a cricket score (which is what a squad of youngsters would experience).

I imagine the AWJ and Falatau wouldn't enjoy their beach holidays too much knowing they'd been left out of a tour of NZ??!!

Anyway, the Ospreys' and Blues' seasons end on 7th May (barring a miracle), so they will have a little time off before the warm-up at Twickers.

I'm NEVER in favour of sending a team of kids down south. Take a few kids for the experience for sure, but even though we will not really be at the races against the NZ test team, we will give them a game. A team of kids will be an insult and maybe to add insult to injury, they will send a team of kids to Wales next time around. Worse still, we will still get butt-rammed. Let's send our very best team (with a few youngsters) and see how we measure up.

It has t be our best team. England at Twickenham could be a different matter though. We and the Englush will have players out due to club finals. Could that be an opportunity for fringe and younger players, for both sides?

Lizard wrote:

Sourdust wrote:IMO sending the first choice squad down south is not just pointless, but tantamount to criminal negligence.

Our players are knackered, that much is obvious. As a squad they're past their prime, and while I wouldn't dispense with many (if any) of them yet, we desperately need some fresh blood and to let players like AWJ and Faletau have a couple of weeks on a beach.

Please don't tell me we need our full squad to beat the All Blacks. A scratch squad of fired-up youngsters has just as much chance, i.e. none at all. And we might just get a few of them battle-hardened enough to make an impact next year.

Well, sending a bunch of 2nd and 3rd stringers south under a coach with a clear vision seemed to (briefly) pay off for England in 1998. I'm not sure that Welsh fans have the patience to wait 5 years for the payoff, or that Gatland intends to be around for that long.

I would rather see your best players, please. Smacking a bunch of schoolboys around will be no sort of preparation for the Championship.

Yup. We need a velvet revolution...preferably a ginger velvet.

Lizard wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

UKHamlet wrote:I think we'll be butfucked so hard they might win 4-0 despite us only playing 3.

We have a midweek game so anything is possible.

That game is against the Chiefs: 2 championships in the last 4 years, just beat a shadow Pumas team (14 of the Jaguares starting XV were in the Pumas RWC squad , I think) and Arg are ranked less than 1 point behind Wales.

May the best team win.

But then, it's also a Chiefs team that will be short of:

Brodallick, Cane, Leitch, Yamashita (assuming they get called up for Japan), TKB, Cruden, Ngatai, SBW, probably Pauliasi Manu, and possibly others like Damien McKenzie, Lowe, Tamanivalu and Nathan Harris. That's not to mention a few others being unavailable due to 7s like Gus Pulu.

True. That might even it up a bit.

cashead wrote:

Lizard wrote:

Sandydragon wrote: We have a midweek game so anything is possible.

That game is against the Chiefs: 2 championships in the last 4 years, just beat a shadow Pumas team (14 of the Jaguares starting XV were in the Pumas RWC squad , I think) and Arg are ranked less than 1 point behind Wales.

May the best team win.

But then, it's also a Chiefs team that will be short of:

Brodallick, Cane, Leitch, Yamashita (assuming they get called up for Japan), TKB, Cruden, Ngatai, SBW, probably Pauliasi Manu, and possibly others like Damien McKenzie, Lowe, Tamanivalu and Nathan Harris. That's not to mention a few others being unavailable due to 7s like Gus Pulu.

We'll send out the seconds then

UKHamlet wrote:

cashead wrote:

Lizard wrote: That game is against the Chiefs: 2 championships in the last 4 years, just beat a shadow Pumas team (14 of the Jaguares starting XV were in the Pumas RWC squad , I think) and Arg are ranked less than 1 point behind Wales.

May the best team win.

But then, it's also a Chiefs team that will be short of:

Brodallick, Cane, Leitch, Yamashita (assuming they get called up for Japan), TKB, Cruden, Ngatai, SBW, probably Pauliasi Manu, and possibly others like Damien McKenzie, Lowe, Tamanivalu and Nathan Harris. That's not to mention a few others being unavailable due to 7s like Gus Pulu.

We'll send out the seconds then

I suspect that game has been earmarked for wider squad members to have a go. with 5 Wales games during the summer tour, including the visit to Twickenham, our senior squad are going to be f*cked by the end of that. Then its a short rest before the new season, which happens to be a Lions year. As much as I want to put a strong team out against the ABs and be at least competitive, I don't want our senior players taking part in 5 games. The England game and the Chiefs game should be developmental. If Gatland has any sense, he will speak to Eddie Jones and bill the game at Twickenham as just that - it suits the English too not to knacker out their first XV.