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The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:51 pm
by whatisthejava
Must be close

Ireland seem to be the closest to full strength but there is probabbly a very competitive team out of those injured

so far i have

Genge . Marfo
Ford
WpNel - Fagerson
J Ball
Swinson
Warbuton
Lydidate
Billy V / Falatua
9
10
11
12
13 Jon Davis
14 Carbury
15

Im missing a few but thats mental

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:13 pm
by Banquo
whatisthejava wrote:Must be close

Ireland seem to be the closest to full strength but there is probabbly a very competitive team out of those injured

so far i have

Genge . Marfo
Ford
WpNel - Fagerson
J Ball
Swinson
Warbuton
Lydidate
Billy V / Falatua
9
10
11
12
13 Jon Davis
14 Carbury
15

Im missing a few but thats mental
Daly

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 7:42 pm
by hugh_woatmeigh
Dickinson
F Brown
Laidlaw

Roberts will be out for a while after the HIA issues, I reckon.

Quite right- this 6N is Ireland's to lose. Their squad is very settled.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:24 pm
by Which Tyler
Surely Tuilagi's going to be injured by then, and isn't MBrown supposed to be hurt?

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 4:24 am
by cashead
Bastareaud is probably going to miss a fair chunk of the 6Ns too for being a bigoted shithead.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:03 am
by SerjeantWildgoose
Heaslip and O'Brien are both out. In other years that would have been a disaster. Even Leinster have the depth to manage without them.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:17 am
by Stones of granite
Looks like Billy Vunipola is out with a broken arm

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 8:56 am
by Adder
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... hobic-slur
France’s Mathieu Bastareaud could miss Six Nations after citing for slur allegation
• TV footage appeared to show Toulon captain uttering homophobic slur
• Lengthy ban possible after incident during match against Benetton

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Sun 14 Jan 2018 18.25 GMT Last modified on Sun 14 Jan 2018 22.39 GMT
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Mathieu Bastareaud in action during Toulon’s 36-0 defeat of Benetton on Sunday
The Toulon captain, Mathieu Bastareaud, could face a lengthy suspension after he was cited for alleged verbal abuse following television footage which appeared to show him uttering a homophobic slur at an opponent during his side’s Champions Cup win over Benetton.

In the final minute of Toulon’s 36-0 win on Sunday Bastareaud appeared to call Sebastian Negri a “fucking faggot”. The relevant World Rugby regulation states that “verbal abuse includes, but is not limited to abuse based on: religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation”. The minimum ban for verbal abuse is six weeks – the maximum is 12 months – and so, if Bastareaud is sanctioned, his participation for France during the Six Nations would be placed in jeopardy.


Billy Vunipola set to miss England’s Six Nations campaign after arm break
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Bastareuad took to Twitter on Sunday evening to apologise for what he described as his “reaction to the insults of the Italian player” and his “bad reaction in response to the provocation”. Soon after however, European Professional Club Rugby, the governing body that runs the Champions Cup, confirmed that Bastareaud had been cited and will face a disciplinary hearing this week. During the incident, Bastareaud appeared to react as if provoked so it remains to be seen if any Benetton players will also be sanctioned.

In March 2015 the Waratahs forward Jacques Potgieter was fined $20,000 by the Australian union for a homophobic slur in a Super Rugby match against the Brumbies after it was brought to the attention of officials by David Pocock.
Think it is more of a Case of Bastareaud not being able to fully comprehend what he is saying when speaking in English, and shouting out the fastest response possible. Not great, especially as he was coming back to some kind of form.

Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:41 am
by Big D
Stones of granite wrote:Looks like Billy Vunipola is out with a broken arm
Almost like his body isn't cut out for professional rugby.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 9:52 am
by Matt Ha
Is Matt Scott still on the injured list?

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:07 am
by Mikey Brown
Yes.

Just from Scotland this wouldn’t be (the makings of) the worst team we’ve ever fielded.

1. Dickinson
2. Ford
3. Nel
4. TTRI
5. Swinson
6.
7. Brown
8. Wilson

9. Laidlaw
10.
11.
12. Scott
13. Dunbar
14.
15. Hogg

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 11:07 am
by whatisthejava
yup

Genge . Marfo
Ford
WpNel - Fagerson
J Ball
Swinson
Warbuton
Lydidate
Billy V / Falatua
9
10
11 Jon Davis
12 Matt Scott
13 Bastarau
14 Carbury
15

That team is shaping up prety well, Hogg is technically injured but will be back for the 6N

Still no 9 or 10 been injured

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:29 pm
by Matt Ha
Isn't Seymour also injured at the mo but, like Hogg, should be back in time for the 6Ns.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:28 pm
by cashead
Adder wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... hobic-slur
France’s Mathieu Bastareaud could miss Six Nations after citing for slur allegation
• TV footage appeared to show Toulon captain uttering homophobic slur
• Lengthy ban possible after incident during match against Benetton

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Sun 14 Jan 2018 18.25 GMT Last modified on Sun 14 Jan 2018 22.39 GMT
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Mathieu Bastareaud in action during Toulon’s 36-0 defeat of Benetton on Sunday
The Toulon captain, Mathieu Bastareaud, could face a lengthy suspension after he was cited for alleged verbal abuse following television footage which appeared to show him uttering a homophobic slur at an opponent during his side’s Champions Cup win over Benetton.

In the final minute of Toulon’s 36-0 win on Sunday Bastareaud appeared to call Sebastian Negri a “fucking faggot”. The relevant World Rugby regulation states that “verbal abuse includes, but is not limited to abuse based on: religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation”. The minimum ban for verbal abuse is six weeks – the maximum is 12 months – and so, if Bastareaud is sanctioned, his participation for France during the Six Nations would be placed in jeopardy.


Billy Vunipola set to miss England’s Six Nations campaign after arm break
Read more
Bastareuad took to Twitter on Sunday evening to apologise for what he described as his “reaction to the insults of the Italian player” and his “bad reaction in response to the provocation”. Soon after however, European Professional Club Rugby, the governing body that runs the Champions Cup, confirmed that Bastareaud had been cited and will face a disciplinary hearing this week. During the incident, Bastareaud appeared to react as if provoked so it remains to be seen if any Benetton players will also be sanctioned.

In March 2015 the Waratahs forward Jacques Potgieter was fined $20,000 by the Australian union for a homophobic slur in a Super Rugby match against the Brumbies after it was brought to the attention of officials by David Pocock.
Think it is more of a Case of Bastareaud not being able to fully comprehend what he is saying when speaking in English, and shouting out the fastest response possible. Not great, especially as he was coming back to some kind of form.
Fuck off with that shit, bro. There were multiple, equally quick responses he could have come up with, and most of them don't involve shouting a derogatory term at someone. Would you be so quick to minimise what he said if it were racial in nature?

If your response, when being told to watch a "fucking swinging arm," is to shout "fucking faggot" at the person, you're either a stupid, dumb shit idiot fucking lunkhead moron, or an immature teenage dipshit who needs to gain some perspective. Considering that Matty is pushing 30, what's his fucking excuse?

Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:18 am
by Adder
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... hobic-slur
France’s Mathieu Bastareaud could miss Six Nations after citing for slur allegation
• TV footage appeared to show Toulon captain uttering homophobic slur
• Lengthy ban possible after incident during match against Benetton

Gerard Meagher

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Mathieu Bastareaud in action during Toulon’s 36-0 defeat of Benetton on Sunday
The Toulon captain, Mathieu Bastareaud, could face a lengthy suspension after he was cited for alleged verbal abuse following television footage which appeared to show him uttering a homophobic slur at an opponent during his side’s Champions Cup win over Benetton.

In the final minute of Toulon’s 36-0 win on Sunday Bastareaud appeared to call Sebastian Negri a “fucking faggot”. The relevant World Rugby regulation states that “verbal abuse includes, but is not limited to abuse based on: religion, colour, national or ethnic origin, sexual orientation”. The minimum ban for verbal abuse is six weeks – the maximum is 12 months – and so, if Bastareaud is sanctioned, his participation for France during the Six Nations would be placed in jeopardy.


Billy Vunipola set to miss England’s Six Nations campaign after arm break
Read more
Bastareuad took to Twitter on Sunday evening to apologise for what he described as his “reaction to the insults of the Italian player” and his “bad reaction in response to the provocation”. Soon after however, European Professional Club Rugby, the governing body that runs the Champions Cup, confirmed that Bastareaud had been cited and will face a disciplinary hearing this week. During the incident, Bastareaud appeared to react as if provoked so it remains to be seen if any Benetton players will also be sanctioned.

In March 2015 the Waratahs forward Jacques Potgieter was fined $20,000 by the Australian union for a homophobic slur in a Super Rugby match against the Brumbies after it was brought to the attention of officials by David Pocock.
Think it is more of a Case of Bastareaud not being able to fully comprehend what he is saying when speaking in English, and shouting out the fastest response possible. Not great, especially as he was coming back to some kind of form.
Fuck off with that shit, bro. There were multiple, equally quick responses he could have come up with, and most of them don't involve shouting a derogatory term at someone. Would you be so quick to minimise what he said if it were racial in nature?

If your response, when being told to watch a "fucking swinging arm," is to shout "fucking faggot" at the person, you're either a stupid, dumb shit idiot fucking lunkhead moron, or an immature teenage dipshit who needs to gain some perspective. Considering that Matty is pushing 30, what's his fucking excuse?
More of an explanation than an excuse. Foreigner's aren't able to fully value their swearing.

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Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:38 am
by cashead
Adder wrote:
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2018/ ... hobic-slur


Think it is more of a Case of Bastareaud not being able to fully comprehend what he is saying when speaking in English, and shouting out the fastest response possible. Not great, especially as he was coming back to some kind of form.
Fuck off with that shit, bro. There were multiple, equally quick responses he could have come up with, and most of them don't involve shouting a derogatory term at someone. Would you be so quick to minimise what he said if it were racial in nature?

If your response, when being told to watch a "fucking swinging arm," is to shout "fucking faggot" at the person, you're either a stupid, dumb shit idiot fucking lunkhead moron, or an immature teenage dipshit who needs to gain some perspective. Considering that Matty is pushing 30, what's his fucking excuse?
More of an explanation than an excuse. Foreigner's aren't able to fully value their swearing.

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He obviously knew enough to apologise about it afterwards. That kind of shit has no place on the pitch.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:44 am
by Adder
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:
cashead wrote:
Fuck off with that shit, bro. There were multiple, equally quick responses he could have come up with, and most of them don't involve shouting a derogatory term at someone. Would you be so quick to minimise what he said if it were racial in nature?

If your response, when being told to watch a "fucking swinging arm," is to shout "fucking faggot" at the person, you're either a stupid, dumb shit idiot fucking lunkhead moron, or an immature teenage dipshit who needs to gain some perspective. Considering that Matty is pushing 30, what's his fucking excuse?
More of an explanation than an excuse. Foreigner's aren't able to fully value their swearing.

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He obviously knew enough to apologise about it afterwards. That kind of shit has no place on the pitch.
We agree. We also agree that when your team is 30 points there is no reason to get upset.

He will be sanctioned, I just believe the fact that he grew up without that as a "Nono" word should be taken into account. Yes when asked in a calm environment he knows what it means, but he has a limited insult stock when tensions go up.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:56 am
by cashead
Adder wrote:
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:More of an explanation than an excuse. Foreigner's aren't able to fully value their swearing.

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He obviously knew enough to apologise about it afterwards. That kind of shit has no place on the pitch.
We agree. We also agree that when your team is 30 points there is no reason to get upset.

He will be sanctioned, I just believe the fact that he grew up without that as a "Nono" word should be taken into account. Yes when asked in a calm environment he knows what it means, but he has a limited insult stock when tensions go up.

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That is a load of bullshit and you know it. Stop trying to excuse that pillock.

Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:03 am
by Adder
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:
cashead wrote: He obviously knew enough to apologise about it afterwards. That kind of shit has no place on the pitch.
We agree. We also agree that when your team is 30 points there is no reason to get upset.

He will be sanctioned, I just believe the fact that he grew up without that as a "Nono" word should be taken into account. Yes when asked in a calm environment he knows what it means, but he has a limited insult stock when tensions go up.

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That is a load of bullshit and you know it. Stop trying to excuse that pillock.
Not really, do you speak any other languages than English? If you do, you should be able to comprehend what I mean.
My main point is that you can't judge him along the same lines as Joe Marler & co.

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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:45 am
by cashead
Adder wrote:
cashead wrote:
Adder wrote:We agree. We also agree that when your team is 30 points there is no reason to get upset.

He will be sanctioned, I just believe the fact that he grew up without that as a "Nono" word should be taken into account. Yes when asked in a calm environment he knows what it means, but he has a limited insult stock when tensions go up.

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That is a load of bullshit and you know it. Stop trying to excuse that pillock.
Not really, do you speak any other languages than English? If you do, you should be able to comprehend what I mean.
My main point is that you can't judge him along the same lines as Joe Marler & co.

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Actually, yeah I do speak more than one language. You’re still talking absolute bullshit.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:48 am
by whatisthejava
The only time it is acceptable to use that word is if your reading fellowship of the rings out loud.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:23 am
by cashead
The only acceptable time it is to say "faggots" in casual conversation is if one were to be discussing sticks, or Welsh cuisine.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 9:50 am
by hugh_woatmeigh
Agree with Adder. Stop throwing your toys out of the pram - he didn't condone or excuse the behaviour.

Fat basta will surely get a long ban and rightly so.

Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:04 am
by cashead
Nah, there was an obvious attempt at minimising it. "Foreigners don't understand it when they use derogatory terms" is a shitty argument, and will always be a shitty argument.

Re: RE: Re: The most injury ravaged 6N ever

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2018 10:20 am
by Adder
cashead wrote:Nah, there was an obvious attempt at minimising it. "Foreigners don't understand it when they use derogatory terms" is a shitty argument, and will always be a shitty argument.
That wasn't the arguement. Please re-read.
Never condoned his words. Just explaining why he would be more likely to say that. In the same way a white central European is more likely to say "my n*gga". Just not part of cultural "Nono" words. Stop being so high and mighty, no one is buying into it.

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