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Idle gossip.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 3:36 pm
by AL.
Idle gossip, just came up on the rugby 24 page (that I noticed anyway).

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/wo ... ed-8981098

Re: Idle gossip.

Posted: Wed Oct 05, 2016 9:48 pm
by Lizard
I'm not familiar with Northern Irish criminal law but a charge of "common assault" sounds like something less than the "battering" alleged in the article. Not that it makes it OK, of course.


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Re: Idle gossip.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 9:33 am
by AL.
I don't think they should be allowed to talk about it until it is proven, then open season. If not, it should not get a mention anywhere.....

Re: Idle gossip.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:48 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
Lizard wrote:I'm not familiar with Northern Irish criminal law but a charge of "common assault" sounds like something less than the "battering" alleged in the article. Not that it makes it OK, of course.


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It's actually the same offence, usually and the terms "assault" and "battery" are used interchangeably by and large. Battery is any unlawful touching. Common assault is technically causing the apprehension of a battery but "assault" includes both common assault and battery.

Re: Idle gossip.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 10:57 am
by Lizard
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Lizard wrote:I'm not familiar with Northern Irish criminal law but a charge of "common assault" sounds like something less than the "battering" alleged in the article. Not that it makes it OK, of course.


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It's actually the same offence, usually and the terms "assault" and "battery" are used interchangeably by and large. Battery is any unlawful touching. Common assault is technically causing the apprehension of a battery but "assault" includes both common assault and battery.
Ah, that does ring a bell - it's been 20 years since I took a criminal law paper. Presumably if there had been any injury caused the charge would be more severe - there must be "causing bodily harm" type offences?

Mind you, here in NZ the press seems to think we should be hanging, drawing and quartering a bloke just for obliging a young lady, at her request, in the privacy of his own public toilet.

Re: Idle gossip.

Posted: Thu Oct 06, 2016 12:11 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
Lizard wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Lizard wrote:I'm not familiar with Northern Irish criminal law but a charge of "common assault" sounds like something less than the "battering" alleged in the article. Not that it makes it OK, of course.


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It's actually the same offence, usually and the terms "assault" and "battery" are used interchangeably by and large. Battery is any unlawful touching. Common assault is technically causing the apprehension of a battery but "assault" includes both common assault and battery.
Ah, that does ring a bell - it's been 20 years since I took a criminal law paper. Presumably if there had been any injury caused the charge would be more severe - there must be "causing bodily harm" type offences?

Mind you, here in NZ the press seems to think we should be hanging, drawing and quartering a bloke just for obliging a young lady, at her request, in the privacy of his own public toilet.
Offences against the person act 1861 s.47 assault occasioning actual bodily harm