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2nd T20, St Kitts & Nevis..
WI 25-6 chasing Eng 182
4 wkts in 2 overs from Chris Jordan..who is this fringe player/new kid?..a 30 yr old Bajan born Sussex quickie..
Kent's Billings (27) hit 87 off 47 at the close of Eng innings.These stats are also daft, one might say.
**update
All out 45 -Only Netherlands have scored fewer in a T20 intl, 39 vs. Sri Lanka in 2014.
Jordan 4-6 = best ever for Eng. in T20's.
137=Eng's biggest margin of victory by runs in T20s and the fourth biggest of all time.

Stom wrote:

fivepointer wrote:That game was utterly mad.
Some might have found it fun but when bowlers are no more than boundary fodder the game loses some of its appeal for me.
Push the boundaries out and try and give the bowlers something to work with. i'e a ball that might swing a bit and a pitch that doesnt resemble a billiard table.

Aye, I completely agree. It's a farce nowadays. But that's the cake cricket has made itself and now it must eat it...

It's such a shame sports are eating themselves...

Any revisions required?

Digby wrote:

Stom wrote:

fivepointer wrote:That game was utterly mad.
Some might have found it fun but when bowlers are no more than boundary fodder the game loses some of its appeal for me.
Push the boundaries out and try and give the bowlers something to work with. i'e a ball that might swing a bit and a pitch that doesnt resemble a billiard table.

Aye, I completely agree. It's a farce nowadays. But that's the cake cricket has made itself and now it must eat it...

It's such a shame sports are eating themselves...

Any revisions required?

Lol

Stom wrote:

Digby wrote:

Stom wrote:
Aye, I completely agree. It's a farce nowadays. But that's the cake cricket has made itself and now it must eat it...

It's such a shame sports are eating themselves...

Any revisions required?

Lol

Hilarious.

I will confess I don't really care if the shorter forms of cricket all fall by the way side, but in the main I'd want par score in 50 over cricket to be around 280, with low scores being 240 and really high scores around 350

Looks as though Eng will fall short in the hefty 349 run chase v Pak...29 off last 2 overs after Wahab bags Moeen & Woakes in consequetive balls.
Pak got tatered by Windies pacy short-of-a-length barrage in their first game.

Eng. 334 - 9 from their 50.
Oh dear.

I was at work so missed this, but that dropped ball was an absolute howler.

What a difference 12 months can make. Last year it was hot and dry. Perfect weather for cricket watching and playing.

This year we are up to 4 washed out games in the world cup so far. With points being split there will almost undoubtedly be a team that goes home feeling mighty unlucky.

Squeeky-bum time after folding to Sri L.
Comments like 'shock defeat' to another top cricketing nation (winner & runner up records in both 1-day
formats) with the Slingmeister still giving it rice, has a familiar tone.

On the basis of aba (anyone but Australia) I listened to most of today’s play ont’ radio.

What does England need to actually excel in a World Cup? Surely they must have known that conditions would require a level of flexibility of approach? You can’t score 400 on every pitch.

What do they talk about during the game that they kept bowling short for so long.

Are they just flat track bullies with no plan B? Has 20/20 made them entirely one dimensional.

I’m glad I get to switch back to supporting NZ again now. We probably won’t win, but we generally know that it won’t come easy and we will have to work at it to have a chance.

Anyway. Boring rant over

canta_brian wrote:On the basis of aba (anyone but Australia) I listened to most of today’s play ont’ radio.

What does England need to actually excel in a World Cup? Surely they must have known that conditions would require a level of flexibility of approach? You can’t score 400 on every pitch.

What do they talk about during the game that they kept bowling short for so long.

Are they just flat track bullies with no plan B? Has 20/20 made them entirely one dimensional.

I’m glad I get to switch back to supporting NZ again now. We probably won’t win, but we generally know that it won’t come easy and we will have to work at it to have a chance.

Anyway. Boring rant over

It's just a congenital inability of our cricketers to perform under pressure. We went into the tournament as favourites for a very good reason - we'd beaten all comers across the last few years and were an excellent team. Come a tournament and we very promptly shit the bed, again.

Mind, in our slight defence, losing Roy has made a massive difference to our batting, as it means we are playing James "20 then out" Vince (or second ball duck, as he was today). And we didn't get the rub of the green, as Archer and Wood could've had 4 in that opening spell and slightly better connections would've seen about 4 of our wickets be sixes by a metre, rather than caught by a metre. Having said that, we folded like an deckchair bought from Lidl and Australia bowled very well, so I'm in no way suggesting that we deserved to win.

Speaking of bowling well, that ball from Starc that bowled Stokes was utterly unplayable. Starts outside off, looks like it might go away, slides in and then last minute veers in to hit off stump. You give me that in slow motion and I couldn't have defended it. Wonderful bowling.

Puja

What do you mean "switch back"? Have you gone fucking native?


NZ will fold come the knock out games too.

morepork wrote:What do you mean "switch back"? Have you gone fucking native?


NZ will fold come the knock out games too.

Amateurs. If you're going to fold, do the job properly and go out in the group stage.

Puja

morepork wrote:What do you mean "switch back"? Have you gone fucking native?


NZ will fold come the knock out games too.

I have not gone native! As mentioned ABA. Although with England v Aussie you know that at least one will lose so it's all good.

Big loud flashing warning signs were there after the Sri Lankan game. Losing that has put us in a very difficult position, which yesterdays loss has simply intensified.
We've buckled under the pressure. Aussie played well - Starc really makes a huge difference - but that wasnt a performance the team should be at all happy with.

Let's be fair. Since we thrashed the Aussies, they've added 2 world class batsmen to their XI in Warner and Smith.

And we've replaced Jason Roy with a pile of rhubarb.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE POINT OF JAMES VINCE?

Stom wrote:Let's be fair. Since we thrashed the Aussies, they've added 2 world class batsmen to their XI in Warner and Smith.

And we've replaced Jason Roy with a pile of rhubarb.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE POINT OF JAMES VINCE?

He gives Joe Root the illusion that he's not opening the batting?

That's basically all I've got.

Puja

we appear to be bu55ered; almost certainly need to win the last two games v India and NZ, and given the randomness of the bowling/fielding and loss of confidence/competence in the batting, where decision making has been risible, I find that quite hard to see happening. Frankly, no.1 status was always a little tenuous, given the bowling attack.....

One of England's problems after yesterday (NZ losing to Pakistan) is that they are now at the mercy of the weather as well. Any rain for them and they get max 11 points. If one of those is NZ then NZ goes to 12. NZ could also go to 12 with a wet day against Aus.

India have matches in hand and Pakistan have two weaker teams to play. England now need a fair few things to go in their favour and to play well to make the semis. The weather does however look to have improved quite a bit, but we are in the UK so anything is possible.

I reckon England's positive net run rate might just see them right. But it is only just over 50% for me and of course this means they will get a tough semi.

NZ might have won all the group matches they are going to. Yesterday's biggest plus for them was getting the match to go the full 50 overs (basically) so the net run rate is still in their favour. So long as they don't get thrashed they should be ok.

canta_brian wrote:One of England's problems after yesterday (NZ losing to Pakistan) is that they are now at the mercy of the weather as well. Any rain for them and they get max 11 points. If one of those is NZ then NZ goes to 12. NZ could also go to 12 with a wet day against Aus.

India have matches in hand and Pakistan have two weaker teams to play. England now need a fair few things to go in their favour and to play well to make the semis. The weather does however look to have improved quite a bit, but we are in the UK so anything is possible.

I reckon England's positive net run rate might just see them right. But it is only just over 50% for me and of course this means they will get a tough semi.

NZ might have won all the group matches they are going to. Yesterday's biggest plus for them was getting the match to go the full 50 overs (basically) so the net run rate is still in their favour. So long as they don't get thrashed they should be ok.

Both semis will be tough, all of NZ, India and Oz look good, in NZ and OZ's case specifically strike bowling. England's biggest downfall of many v oz was their poor pace bowling at the start.- brainless from Wood especially.

India surrender at the end was weird.

They are good sports..long wait for Eng after Wed if they fluff their lines v. NewZ at Durham.
Ban (out of it) v Pak is Lords on Fri.

Good win today. The team were up against it and came good. Now follow it up on Wednesday and turn over NZ and we're in the SF.
Aus are looking ominously good. NZ werent great yesterday but the way Aus worked towards a reasonable total and their defence of it was very impressive. Starc is the bowler of the competition so far and does give Aus a real edge.

It is ridiculous how dependant we are on Jason Roy to have a functioning batting lineup.

Puja