Re: Brexit delayed
Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:14 pm
Lost by 4 - they must’ve thought it worth the risk. I’m really looking forward to Farage’s reaction to this. I’m sure it’ll be measured.
I'm still stuck feeling that on a near 50/50 vote one shouldn't expect to get everything one wants, and if we were voting to take back control that's what we should have, and that can't mean handing powers to an executive. Also had the whips turned a few votes I understand a few more would've rebelled whereas they didn't need to as it was so voted to keep the peace.Mellsblue wrote:Lost by 4 - they must’ve thought it worth the risk. I’m really looking forward to Farage’s reaction to this. I’m sure it’ll be measured.
not that funny, makes a no deal brexit a bit more likely. They'd have got the vote anyway, it was just some tories fannying about to piss off the likes of Bill Cash, a laudable aim in isolation, but not when we are already fcked in terms of negotiation.cashead wrote:Which Tyler wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42346192
The government has been narrowly defeated in a key vote on its Brexit bill after a rebellion by 12 Tory MPs.
In a blow to Prime Minister Theresa May, MPs voted to give Parliament a legal guarantee of a vote on the final Brexit deal struck with Brussels.
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yep, some abstained. But its all a bit fckin inward looking rather than sorting out the real external mess; Field and Hoey opposed it from Labour, think Corbyn would have wanted to personally as wellDigby wrote:I'm still stuck feeling that on a near 50/50 vote one shouldn't expect to get everything one wants, and if we were voting to take back control that's what we should have, and that can't mean handing powers to an executive. Also had the whips turned a few votes I understand a few more would've rebelled whereas they didn't need to as it was so voted to keep the peace.Mellsblue wrote:Lost by 4 - they must’ve thought it worth the risk. I’m really looking forward to Farage’s reaction to this. I’m sure it’ll be measured.
We've just had a very successful phase 1 where we and the EU agreed not to make any hasty decisions as Rome wasn't built in a day, and we've decided to make any actual decisions by some as yet ill defined point in our future. Sir Humphrey would consider such progress sound in the extremeBanquo wrote:yep, some abstained. But its all a bit fckin inward looking rather than sorting out the real external mess; Field and Hoey opposed it from Labour, think Corbyn would have wanted to personally as wellDigby wrote:I'm still stuck feeling that on a near 50/50 vote one shouldn't expect to get everything one wants, and if we were voting to take back control that's what we should have, and that can't mean handing powers to an executive. Also had the whips turned a few votes I understand a few more would've rebelled whereas they didn't need to as it was so voted to keep the peace.Mellsblue wrote:Lost by 4 - they must’ve thought it worth the risk. I’m really looking forward to Farage’s reaction to this. I’m sure it’ll be measured.
meanwhile Rome burns at the same time as not being built in a dayDigby wrote:We've just had a very successful phase 1 where we and the EU agreed not to make any hasty decisions as Rome wasn't built in a day, and we've decided to make any actual decisions by some as yet ill defined point in our future. Sir Humphrey would consider such progress sound in the extremeBanquo wrote:yep, some abstained. But its all a bit fckin inward looking rather than sorting out the real external mess; Field and Hoey opposed it from Labour, think Corbyn would have wanted to personally as wellDigby wrote:
I'm still stuck feeling that on a near 50/50 vote one shouldn't expect to get everything one wants, and if we were voting to take back control that's what we should have, and that can't mean handing powers to an executive. Also had the whips turned a few votes I understand a few more would've rebelled whereas they didn't need to as it was so voted to keep the peace.
Going to be.....already has, its a divine comedy, were it not for the fact that already fcked up lives will be fckd up yet further. But fair point, given its only the internetcashead wrote:I think at this point, you might as well sit back and embrace the fact that it's going to be a massive comedy of errors.Banquo wrote:not that funny, makes a no deal brexit a bit more likely. They'd have got the vote anyway, it was just some tories fannying about to piss off the likes of Bill Cash, a laudable aim in isolation, but not when we are already fcked in terms of negotiation.cashead wrote:
I bet the DM is purring this morning.Digby wrote:No doubt swapping the colour is more important than the travel rights associated with a passport.
This story is indeed symbolic, but not in the way lots of people in the media seem to think. The fact is, nobody under 30 - and pretty much nobody under 40 - has ever had a blue passport and nobody that age regards them as 'iconic' at all.canta_brian wrote:Finally a brexit achievement to make all the expense and social division worthwhile.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42443253
'Iconic' blue British passport to return after Brexit
Digby wrote:The Guardian has undertaken a review of the Brexit analysis, and they've posted 10 summary points from the documents, now it's possible, and only possible, they're taking the piss a bit:
“The food chain includes agriculture”
“The demand for air travel drives the demand for aircraft”
“In coastal communities fishing brings employment and economic activity”
“As an island nation, the UK has been dependent on the sea … throughout history”
“Banks are found all over the UK, largely in proportion to population”
“[Industry] is characterised by some very large firms … and a large number of small firms”
“Short crossing tend to be favoured for time-critical cargoes”
“The higher education sector has different economic characteristics to manufacturing”
“Agricultural output is characterised by fluctuations due to weather”
“A well-known exchange is the London Stock Exchange, where companies obtain a listing for newly issued equities (eg UK company shares) and where those shares are subsequently traded.”
Although there is the worrying thought that whilst they might be taking the piss a little this is the actual analysis, so the joke in all senses is well and truly at our expense
Which Tyler wrote:Digby wrote:The Guardian has undertaken a review of the Brexit analysis, and they've posted 10 summary points from the documents, now it's possible, and only possible, they're taking the piss a bit:
“The food chain includes agriculture”
“The demand for air travel drives the demand for aircraft”
“In coastal communities fishing brings employment and economic activity”
“As an island nation, the UK has been dependent on the sea … throughout history”
“Banks are found all over the UK, largely in proportion to population”
“[Industry] is characterised by some very large firms … and a large number of small firms”
“Short crossing tend to be favoured for time-critical cargoes”
“The higher education sector has different economic characteristics to manufacturing”
“Agricultural output is characterised by fluctuations due to weather”
“A well-known exchange is the London Stock Exchange, where companies obtain a listing for newly issued equities (eg UK company shares) and where those shares are subsequently traded.”
Although there is the worrying thought that whilst they might be taking the piss a little this is the actual analysis, so the joke in all senses is well and truly at our expense
Oh good gods - you weren't even making that up!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... plagiarism
Aye. I hate thinking that this will actually be one of Teunp’s legacies that lives on. Saying that, I thought at the beginnings the phrase “brexit” was fucking retarded and nobody with any dignity would ever use the term, but it’s cleary here for good.morepork wrote:We truly live in the age of The Special Political Olympics. Such titans on the world stage at the moment.
also, please refrain from using the fucking phrase "fake news" whenever possible.
As I said somewhere in an earlier post, it's not even a correct contraction as it should be UKexit as it is the United Kingdom of Great BritainMikey Brown wrote:Aye. I hate thinking that this will actually be one of Teunp’s legacies that lives on. Saying that, I thought at the beginnings the phrase “brexit” was fucking retarded and nobody with any dignity would ever use the term, but it’s cleary here for good.morepork wrote:We truly live in the age of The Special Political Olympics. Such titans on the world stage at the moment.
also, please refrain from using the fucking phrase "fake news" whenever possible.
Yukit.belgarion wrote:As I said somewhere in an earlier post, it's not even a correct contraction as it should be UKexit as it is the United Kingdom of Great BritainMikey Brown wrote:Aye. I hate thinking that this will actually be one of Teunp’s legacies that lives on. Saying that, I thought at the beginnings the phrase “brexit” was fucking retarded and nobody with any dignity would ever use the term, but it’s cleary here for good.morepork wrote:We truly live in the age of The Special Political Olympics. Such titans on the world stage at the moment.
also, please refrain from using the fucking phrase "fake news" whenever possible.
and Northern Ireland that is leaving the EU not just Britain
Now that I agree withMellsblue wrote:Yukit.belgarion wrote:As I said somewhere in an earlier post, it's not even a correct contraction as it should be UKexit as it is the United Kingdom of Great BritainMikey Brown wrote:
Aye. I hate thinking that this will actually be one of Teunp’s legacies that lives on. Saying that, I thought at the beginnings the phrase “brexit” was fucking retarded and nobody with any dignity would ever use the term, but it’s cleary here for good.
and Northern Ireland that is leaving the EU not just Britain
Merry Christmas:Digby wrote:I've two mains thoughts on this, mainly I just don't care what colour a passport is, but if I did have to pick something I'd want something which stands out more than a dark blue passport, I can already spend enough time rummaging in drawers with a burgundy passport so making it harder to spot is a little daft
I actually keep mine in a red Mike Burton zip folder I've still got from the NZ jamboree tour in 2005, I might be wrong but I suspect Mike Burton didn't spend £75 on the folder, indeed I suspect they didn't spend £75 on some of the hotels they booked us intoMellsblue wrote:Merry Christmas:Digby wrote:I've two mains thoughts on this, mainly I just don't care what colour a passport is, but if I did have to pick something I'd want something which stands out more than a dark blue passport, I can already spend enough time rummaging in drawers with a burgundy passport so making it harder to spot is a little daft
https://www.amara.com/products/iphis-pa ... holder-red
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