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Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

Mellsblue wrote:

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

If they're international class then they're really too good to be wasting their time with Scotland

Big D wrote:

Mellsblue wrote:

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

If they're international class then they're really too good to be wasting their time with Scotland

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Big D wrote:Is Jones tied if he tours or does he need to make a match day 23?

hp18 wrote:Needs to make the bench.

Adder wrote:Is Wales the only team in the 6 nations without a South African (trained) player?
It's incredible how many International team have South African Elements. What is so different with the way they are taught Rugby?

Congratulations Big D on the New Born!!! (let me know if it gets easier with the second one )

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

OptimisticJock wrote:
Congratulations mate.

I agree with you but how do you prove that?

Adder wrote:Is Wales the only team in the 6 nations without a South African (trained) player?
It's incredible how many International team have South African Elements. What is so different with the way they are taught Rugby?

Congratulations Big D on the New Born!!! (let me know if it gets easier with the second one )

Adder wrote:I see what you mean, but Kiwis tend to have the odd grandmother.

OptimisticJock wrote:

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

Congratulations mate.

I agree with you but how do you prove that?

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:

OptimisticJock wrote:

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

Congratulations mate.

I agree with you but how do you prove that?

You don't, which is why the rules are a compromise between allowing for the fact that some may have been brought up in that way and preventing a flag of convenience. I personally think the balance isn't quite right, but that's by the by.

And CONGRATULATIONS BIG D! We'll have the Ireland qualified one if he's any good.

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

Cameo wrote:

Big D wrote:It's an interesting debate, wee Heathcote and Jones are clear outliers on the eligibility front.

Not educated or lived in Scotland for any great length of time (days in TH case) but you can't really raise the eligibility rules higher than born in the country.

You can't change that either. To slightly contrive a situation that is clearly different to TH and Jones but why I think these outliers just need to be accepted as things that will happen. I have a 2 year old and a 2 day old. Say I moved next week to Australia for good, and they grew up to be international class. If I raised them to be proud of their Scottish roots why shouldn't they be able to play for Scotland.

Congratulations.

100% agree. Nationality is a tricky one so you'll never get rules that are perfect or fit in with everyone's ideas. Like eugene I would change the residency one but under any rules Huw Jones would be eligible.

My idea has always been for people to have to make a decision when they sign their first professional contract as I think that would stop the embarassing cases of people trying to get in one team, failing and then settling for Scotland. I dont know if you have any views on that from an employment law angle Eugene?

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:I may have missed this but where are your games being televised?

hugh_woatmeigh wrote:

Eugene Wrayburn wrote:I may have missed this but where are your games being televised?

BBC Scotland has both games.