Trump

[Sandydragon]

This sums it up.

[Puja]

Pardon me while I wipe away a solitary tear and pray for a dead nazi.


P.S. the only good nazi is a dead nazi. hth.

Pretty low buddy, pretty low.

Please, no lecture. I know what is happening on my stoop. HTH.

If I do something as dumbfuck as storm a government building because I'm butthurt about a fascist losing an election and die in the process, then you go ahead and joke about it.

Speaking of amusing Darwin awards:

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I've done some.basic digging and this does appear to be how the death listed as "heart attack" actually happened - home made taser, tucked in the front of his trousers.

Puja

[Digby]

I don't object to people taking the piss out of dead people, because I've not really any issue with people being offensive. But there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in some of this, to which whatever and to each their own.

More importantly Ossoff and Warnock won. And there simply cannot be many blacks and jews who've won in the south of the USA, so whatever else is going on it's worth remembering a black and a jew won, in Georgia, no really, they did!

[zer0]

I just wish there was a recording of his reaction when he found out Twatter had banned him. Would've been like an irl version of the Hitler reaction/rant video.

[Which Tyler]

Ducking hell

[morepork]

Complete fuckheads. That does look like those creatures thought this a viable strategy for overthrowing the result. No masks for the inner circle, because they are special. People die, lose their jobs, get evicted, and these cunts go to the trouble of setting up a party tent with Laura Branigan (?!) blaring.

[Puja]

I don't object to people taking the piss out of dead people, because I've not really any issue with people being offensive. But there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in some of this, to which whatever and to each their own.

More importantly Ossoff and Warnock won. And there simply cannot be many blacks and jews who've won in the south of the USA, so whatever else is going on it's worth remembering a black and a jew won, in Georgia, no really, they did!

Plus the Alaska senator Murkowski (who is on the softest edge of the Republican party and has voted against Trump a few times) has publically said that she will leave the Republicans and go independent if the party doesn't take action against Trump. So it could even end up a 51:49 Senate, which is a lot more comfortable when it comes to marginal calls.

Puja

[Digby]

I don't object to people taking the piss out of dead people, because I've not really any issue with people being offensive. But there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in some of this, to which whatever and to each their own.

More importantly Ossoff and Warnock won. And there simply cannot be many blacks and jews who've won in the south of the USA, so whatever else is going on it's worth remembering a black and a jew won, in Georgia, no really, they did!

Plus the Alaska senator Murkowski (who is on the softest edge of the Republican party and has voted against Trump a few times) has publically said that she will leave the Republicans and go independent if the party doesn't take action against Trump. So it could even end up a 51:49 Senate, which is a lot more comfortable when it comes to marginal calls.

Puja

There are at least 2-3 Democratic Senators who might as well be in the GOP however, and they're in a great position to be able to show their voters they're effecting change, if nothing like the change Bernie or even Joe might be after. Certainly it's not plain sailing, but at least they can get things put to a vote without the corrupt roadblock that is McConnell

I think perhaps the one issue they should get to as soon as possible is infrastructure, that is an issue they can get some bipartisan agreement on, it'd be a massive injection into the economy, and the USA is sorely in need of it.

[Puja]

I don't object to people taking the piss out of dead people, because I've not really any issue with people being offensive. But there is a certain amount of hypocrisy in some of this, to which whatever and to each their own.

More importantly Ossoff and Warnock won. And there simply cannot be many blacks and jews who've won in the south of the USA, so whatever else is going on it's worth remembering a black and a jew won, in Georgia, no really, they did!

Plus the Alaska senator Murkowski (who is on the softest edge of the Republican party and has voted against Trump a few times) has publically said that she will leave the Republicans and go independent if the party doesn't take action against Trump. So it could even end up a 51:49 Senate, which is a lot more comfortable when it comes to marginal calls.

Puja

There are at least 2-3 Democratic Senators who might as well be in the GOP however, and they're in a great position to be able to show their voters they're effecting change, if nothing like the change Bernie or even Joe might be after. Certainly it's not plain sailing, but at least they can get things put to a vote without the corrupt roadblock that is McConnell

I think perhaps the one issue they should get to as soon as possible is infrastructure, that is an issue they can get some bipartisan agreement on, it'd be a massive injection into the economy, and the USA is sorely in need of it.

That's what I mean - 50:50 Senate and it becomes the Senator Manchin show and, as you said, he's further right than some of the GOP. If it's 51:49, then they've got options.

I'd say their priority should be whatever horse trading they need to accomplish to get DC Statehood. The Senate is stacked against the Democrats as things stand, because the 3 men and a cow in Montana who always vote red have the same two senators as all of California or New York. There are lots of small rural states and it means it takes a massive Democratic swing to take the Senate. Adding an extra 2 Blue senators for DC would change things massively and, AFAIK, they only need a majority vote to get it through the Senate.

Puja

[Buggaluggs]

Reversing all the gerrymandering would be useful too. The down ticket races go R in many cases due to bizarre re-redistricting.

[morepork]

I'm wondering if Mike Pence is reminded at this time of the fable of the frog and the scorpion? Or maybe a biblical tale of when a pious man was fucked by the long fickle dick of God.

[Stom]

I'm wondering if Mike Pence is reminded at this time of the fable of the frog and the scorpion? Or maybe a biblical tale of when a pious man was fucked by the long fickle dick of God.

I loved hearing Woody Harelson talking about Pence. They both went to the same seminary at the same time. Just one was rather more... zealous in his religion than the other.

Lol

[paddy no 11]

Ducking hell

What is this exactly, watching the riot and directing from a field tent somewhere???

[Mikey Brown]

It’s the revolution, baby.

[Sandydragon]

Ducking hell

What is this exactly, watching the riot and directing from a field tent somewhere???

Its pre-riot. Trump hasn't spoken yet (from what I can work out). The field tent monitoring bit looks about right.

[Puja]

Wel well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions...

You sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

That is absolutely delightful. Here, have some more:

"They're treating me like a fucking black person!!!"




Puja

[Sandydragon]

Wel well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions...

You sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

That is absolutely delightful. Here, have some more:

"They're treating me like a fucking black person!!!"




Puja

That 4 second video nicely summarises the psychological makeup of your average Trump supporting, gun toting headbanger.

[Which Tyler]

Wel well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions...
...
You sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Its pre-riot. Trump hasn't spoken yet (from what I can work out). The field tent monitoring bit looks about right.

Yup - found that out last night

[Sandydragon]

Wel well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions...
...
You sow the wind, reap the whirlwind.

Its pre-riot. Trump hasn't spoken yet (from what I can work out). The field tent monitoring bit looks about right.

Yup - found that out last night

I don't think such things are unusual, but the attitude of the Trump loyalists inside is interesting given the nature of the speeches being made and how inflammatory they are. Its only a short clip but theres no sense that anyone is worried that they might provoke a riot.

[Digby]

It's actually quite a normal scene before a big speech is being given, at least for those speakers who want to feed on the energy of the crowd, plenty prefer calm and quiet

[Which Tyler]

[paddy no 11]

Their attempted coup was as well planned as anything they've done in government - hopeless

They should have got young Thatcher in as a consultant

[Sandydragon]

Their attempted coup was as well planned as anything they've done in government - hopeless

They should have got young Thatcher in as a consultant

As Ive written previously, we should be thankful that Trump isn't competent. Stacking the Pentagon with loyalists is one thing, but in reality the people in uniform won't go against the constitution unless they are absolute Trump loyalists. A bad situation could have been worse if military units had cooperated with Trump as some kind of follow up.

A riot in the Capitol Building is bad, but it wouldn't change events sufficiently to keep Trump as president. Those idiots running around Washington would not have lasted that long against well trained troops sent to remove them. If it were a serious attempt to keep Trump as President, it was very half arsed.

[Sandydragon]

If anything, last weeks riot feels more like a warning shot rather than an actual attempted insurgency/coup. The reaction to the violence by many republicans has probably proven that a large number respect the constitution over their party, but a good minority still support what happened (as far as polls are in any way accurate). Might that give a hint on future intentions? Was this some kind of survey to see how strong support for Trump was nationally?

[Sandydragon]

Or is Trump so delusional that he firmly believed that a show of force by loyalists would persuade Senators to overturn the election (regardless of their constitutional authority to do anything of the sort)? Trump isn't used to being told 'no' and he has surrounded himself with loyalists who probably didn't point out the flaw in his masterplan.