RugbyRebels

Sandydragon wrote:

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:
Trump can’t concede . I don’t think it’s in his personality to be humble and equally having set himself up as a cheated martyr, he can’t walk away from that now. Set sup Trump jnr for 2024 as a revenge mission.

Mary Trump was on Channel 4 news last night and observed this outcome is appalling for Trump in a number of ways, he's failed which of itself is unacceptable, there's nobody to bail him out by swallowing his losses or cheating/lying for him which he'd normally anticipate to cover his failings, and given the GOP have done well in the Senate and Congress it's not the GOP dragging him down, he's failing in the Presidential race as Trump, he's the one dragging the GOP down so there's no easy target to blame. Essentially he'll be miserable and left flailing because he just will not be able to cope with what's transpired

Indeed, he is now a loser. The only way to shift blame is to accuse the democrats or someone of somehow cheating.

Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.

Puja wrote:And that's the ball game - the networks have called Pennsylvania for Biden and thus the election.

fivepointer wrote:The odious creep will doubtless hang around for a bit like a bad smell but the relief of having a grown up in charge of the USA is something to cheer.

Puja wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.

The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja

Puja wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.

The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja

Digby wrote:

Puja wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:Digby, I don’t think much will happen between now and the inauguration. Trump will sulk and provided he just rants on Twitter then that’s probably the best we can hope for. If he throws what little authority he has left about between now and then I’ll be more concerned, although expect some presidential pardons to be issued.

The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja

None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone

Sandydragon wrote:

Digby wrote:

Puja wrote:
The Georgia runoffs could be a blessing in that sense, as the wider Republican party will have an active disincentive to engage with any egregious fuckery because they'll still have something to fight over.

Puja

For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone

None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

Digby wrote:

Sandydragon wrote:

Digby wrote:
For a start from right now as much data as possible should be getting shared with team Biden, because one group has lots of very expensive governmental data and one doesn't. Right now any decision Trump males that impacts upon the future should as much as possible not tie the hands of the incoming executive just in the normal running of the place no major policy stuff. Just on those two points Trump could do a lot of damage if he fails to act with even some basic decency.

And then Trump can do a lot of damage poisoning the well when it comes to public opinion, with his supporters and those who really don't support him

And then there's environmental accords, wars, trade deals, security protocols that he could in a worst case scenario conclude if he's going down then he's going to take a big shit in the Whitehouse before he's gone

None of that will happen. Instead he will probably play golf and plan for his proposed TV network.

Good news if true, with no permanent civil service this is actually quite important, and for all the talk of phone lines being cut and missing buttons from computer keyboards it's all the handover of data which is the priority, and being respectful of the incoming executive and trying if possible not to commit them to various acts

In a good number of handovers the various aides become long-lasting friends even allowing for the pain the outgoing administration feel.

Of course it's possible this administration will have less to handover because of serial incompetence and laziness over the years, and will instead spend time trying to hide their crimes and stir up trouble.

morepork wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/vid ... ters-video


Well played Rudy.

Son of Mathonwy wrote:(Aside for SF fans - this situation reminds me of the start of Dune, when the Atreides take over from the Harkonnens and have to turn everything upside down searching for booby traps.)