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Which Tyler wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 9:39 am Wait, what?

Huh. Never heard of that treaty before, but a quick google suggests it's one of those pieces of law enacted for a very specific situation that no-one really thought through that well and vested interests have let stay in place. It was designed to encourage energy firms to work in former Soviet Countries by providing a guarantee that they could sue if the governments enacted policies that screwed them over, but in modern times have allowed oil companies to sue Italy for banning offshore drilling.

Good work by the French (and it appears the Italians and Belgians too). Hopefully the UK follows suit.

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Bravermann back in as Home Secretary. Guess she really learned a lot during the few days that she "took responsibility" for mishandling confidential information.

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Puja wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 5:46 pm Bravermann back in as Home Secretary. Guess she really learned a lot during the few days that she "took responsibility" for mishandling confidential information.

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A week off for breaching the ministerial code. Now everyone will take it seriously.
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cashead wrote: Tue Oct 25, 2022 10:10 pm
Which Tyler wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 2:28 pm
Rishi Sunak will face ‘ungovernable’ Tory party, warns Johnson supporter

MP Christopher Chope says there will be continuing rebellions unless Sunak holds general election if he becomes PM
lmao, don’t threaten us with a good time
Chope probably has his letter of no confidence in with the 1922 already. The bloke just highlights everything wrong with the Conservative party. He also has one of the safest seats in the UK.
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Suella Braverman....what a charming individual. Her Public Order bill seems to take square aim at the right to protest. Not only are these muppets sinking the economy, they are actively suppressing civil rights in order to 86 any opposition to their ineptitude. It's Kamikaze ideology. Absolutely astounding.
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morepork wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:33 pm Suella Braverman....what a charming individual. Her Public Order bill seems to take square aim at the right to protest. Not only are these muppets sinking the economy, they are actively suppressing civil rights in order to 86 any opposition to their ineptitude. It's Kamikaze ideology. Absolutely astounding.
The same person who openly and proudly said that her greatest desire and fantasy is to get a full flight of refugees sent to Rwanda. She's appalling.

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Puja wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:46 pm
morepork wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 4:33 pm Suella Braverman....what a charming individual. Her Public Order bill seems to take square aim at the right to protest. Not only are these muppets sinking the economy, they are actively suppressing civil rights in order to 86 any opposition to their ineptitude. It's Kamikaze ideology. Absolutely astounding.
The same person who openly and proudly said that her greatest desire and fantasy is to get a full flight of refugees sent to Rwanda. She's appalling.

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She is appalling but they're all signed up to this stuff. She's just a bit more obvious.
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So let me see if I have this right:

Liz Truss' phone was hacked, and an entire year's worth of state level secrets were intercepted by foreign powers. Including negotiations with the Ukraine and key allies during her time as foreign secretary.

Boris Johnson then decided to enforce a media blackout, because he didn't want to spike her chances of becoming leader. Boris Johnson not only allowed a minister compromised by Russian intelligence into No. 10, he actively assisted in it.

Fuck me.

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Puja wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 9:06 pm So let me see if I have this right:

Liz Truss' phone was hacked, and an entire year's worth of state level secrets were intercepted by foreign powers. Including negotiations with the Ukraine and key allies during her time as foreign secretary.

Boris Johnson then decided to enforce a media blackout, because he didn't want to spike her chances of becoming leader. Boris Johnson not only allowed a minister compromised by Russian intelligence into No. 10, he actively assisted in it.

Fuck me.

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Not quite sure which thread this belongs in, but, this is golden!

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Which Tyler wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 1:00 pm Not quite sure which thread this belongs in, but, this is golden!

There are no words.
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Sandydragon wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 2:56 pmThere are no words.
Oh, there are - but they might get me banned.
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Matt Hancock goes on I'm a celebrity and is suspended. What a dick.
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Banquo wrote: Tue Nov 01, 2022 11:48 am Matt Hancock goes on I'm a celebrity and is suspended. What a dick.
Apparently, he also has a book due out for Christmas. Can't imagine that being a best seller, but all publicity helps I'm sure.
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Instead of austerity, how about cancelling HS2?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ty-project

Labour ought to argue for this. Easy win.
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Son of Mathonwy wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 12:50 pm Instead of austerity, how about cancelling HS2?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ty-project

Labour ought to argue for this. Easy win.
I'm often wary about the constant reviews on long-term projects as they add to cost and cause delays. Pre-covid, I would have supported HS2. Now I'm not so sure. I took the train to London yesterday and it was 25% full. On the train out of London at 1630, there were plenty of seats. I know that the intention is to provide greater capacity on the line, not necessarily quicker journeys, but I do wonder if that capacity requirement is still there.

HS3 on the other hand is still definitely an urgent requirement as rail services between the major northern cities are rubbish.
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Heard a chap talking it about economic growth in America. Apparently the highest periods of growth coincide with high corporation tax. As high as 60%. The theory being that no company wants to pay that sort of tax on profits, so instead of doing so, they invest in longer term projects and pay their staff better. Imagine that! Better paid staff are more productive.
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Hardly a revelation.......
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morepork wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:15 pm Hardly a revelation.......
Well, quite

And yet we keep being told that reducing taxes on the rich will encourage them to invest and, definitely not, just trouser the profits and suppress wages.

I’m starting to think the government doesn’t have my best interests at heart.
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canta_brian wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 pm
morepork wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:15 pm Hardly a revelation.......
Well, quite

And yet we keep being told that reducing taxes on the rich will encourage them to invest and, definitely not, just trouser the profits and suppress wages.

I’m starting to think the government doesn’t have my best interests at heart.
I've been banging this drum for a loooong time. Reaganomics/Thatcheromics does not work. It destroys growth by making the easy option incredibly appealing. It needs to be reversed asap, but people like Banquo are vehemently against it as it will kill their precious pension pots overnight ;)

But we need to cut the stock market adrift asap, and raise corp. tax.
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Stom wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:51 pm
canta_brian wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 pm
morepork wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 5:15 pm Hardly a revelation.......
Well, quite

And yet we keep being told that reducing taxes on the rich will encourage them to invest and, definitely not, just trouser the profits and suppress wages.

I’m starting to think the government doesn’t have my best interests at heart.
It needs to be reversed asap, but people like Banquo are vehemently against it as it will kill their precious pension pots overnight ;)

Yeah, I'm such a ba5tard having saved up for my retirement having paid shitloads in tax at the same time :)
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Banquo wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:30 am
Stom wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:51 pm
canta_brian wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 7:23 pm

Well, quite

And yet we keep being told that reducing taxes on the rich will encourage them to invest and, definitely not, just trouser the profits and suppress wages.

I’m starting to think the government doesn’t have my best interests at heart.
It needs to be reversed asap, but people like Banquo are vehemently against it as it will kill their precious pension pots overnight ;)

Yeah, I'm such a ba5tard having saved up for my retirement having paid shitloads in tax at the same time :)
Absolutely, you're a monster.
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Stom wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:44 am
Banquo wrote: Wed Nov 16, 2022 9:30 am
Stom wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 8:51 pm

It needs to be reversed asap, but people like Banquo are vehemently against it as it will kill their precious pension pots overnight ;)

Yeah, I'm such a ba5tard having saved up for my retirement having paid shitloads in tax at the same time :)
Absolutely, you're a monster.
:lol: :lol:
on a serious note, whilst I wouldn't start from here, not sure how you rip it up and start again. Definitely need to look at corporate governance :)
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