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Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:21 pm I’m not getting carried away it’ll make a huge difference overall but Braverman getting canned is at least one thing to happy about. What a horrible fucking bitch.

Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:27 pm

Puja wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:33 pm

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:11 pm
If I'm reading this right (paraphrase, not quote, obviously)... "You MUST vote against your own manifesto pledge, or be fired - even if you're not in the country (unless you're called Boris, of course - we love you Boris)" All wrapped up in a lie that it's a confidence motion - pretty sure those are no confidence votes, not votes in opposition of their own manifesto.


Oh, and I am not Beth Rigby, nor related to Beth Rigby; Beth Rigby's opinions are (presumably) the opinions of Beth Rigby, and not necessarily shared by Which Tyler

It's the same tactic Boris used on the Brexit vote - self-declaring it a confidence issue where the punishment was stripping of the whip and expulsion from the party.

Big risk though - if they face a rebellion of 40 MPs, would they really expel all of them? Would they not then have no incentive not to vote with an actual confidence motion if they're already on their way out?

Puja

A dangerous game. For any back-bencher in an unsafe seat (there are quite a lot of them now) there may not be that much to lose. For red wall Tories it might be the time to defect to Labour or go looking for a job outside Parliament. Risking your majority just to save fracking! Incredible.

Looking forward to this.

Ruth Edwards, the Conservative MP for Rushcliffe, did not say she would vote against the government, saying: “I don’t support fracking, but I am even less keen on the idea of letting the Labour party play at being in government for the day.”

Mellsblue wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:28 pm How do you think it works in other countries? No party line, just vote however you want on any given bill?!?!!?

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:34 pm Bloody hell

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:27 pm Lol. Wow.

I don't know if there was more of it, but yeah that was worth watching.

Puja wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:52 pm

Mikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Oct 19, 2022 10:27 pm Lol. Wow.

I don't know if there was more of it, but yeah that was worth watching.

I'm not sure I'm so concerned about the finances of the poor innocent Tory MPs facing the prospect of golden adjustment payments followed by using their myriad contacts to find a high-paying job, luxuries which most of the people they've fucked over didn't have, but it's a powerful speech nonetheless.

Nadine Dorries has chipped in, telling him it's his own fault for having removed the election-winning powerhouse that is Boris Johnson. She really is incredible, isn't she?

Puja

Zhivago wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 7:41 am The tribulations of both parties in recent times has shown clearly that when the membership is at odds with the parliamentary party, at some point reality starts kicking in and the parliamentary party wins over the members.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:34 am Is anyone else really enjoying this?

Banquo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 9:32 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 5:34 am Is anyone else really enjoying this?

In abstract, but then you think about the mess that a lot of people are in and how can we get out of a really bad economic spiral- even competent govt would struggle, but we have this.

Puja wrote: ↑Thu Oct 20, 2022 1:42 pm The lettuce outlasted her. Excellent.

Puja