Trump

Post Reply
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

The positive test is a completely different strategy to the research using human fetal tissue. This administration has been bombarded like a mother fucker by pro life groups who managed to freeze up established and approved source material to make humanised mice (have a human immune system) to test potential vaccines. Mike Pence sucks the cock of these groups for the lord. The NIH has been working overtime to secure another source and the program has a stay of execution for now. I just pray to the omniscient space zombie that these rock stars in the NIH don't jump ship and Pence populates the institute with religious paedos.
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Cook = Apple says Donald Collusion
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Digby wrote:Cook = Apple says Donald Collusion
With the shame of our brexit negotiations stinking the country out I find I'm grateful to Don for initially saying he did call him Tim Cook, he just said it really quietly and quickly, and then with it being pointed out to him the video and audio say bollocks to his claim he's now going with Tim Apple is just the quick way to refer to someone

Fair play to him mind, getting the press to cover this instead of his patently absurd and highly hypocritical budget isn't the worst move he's made
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Trump then is, or at least his actions are, a Purim miracle, and Pompeo conceded in response to a question that it was possible Trump was sent by God to save Israel

Which I guess is nice, but it's a challenging thing to accept we should just move on when it comes to the Golan Heights. Against which you could reasonably claim the entirety of Israel is an illegal occupation and yet I'm happy to accept much of that as a fait accompli

So are my concerns with Trump's latest really about Israel, Syria and Iran, or actually are my concerns more rooted in what Trump is in effect saying about Russian and even Chinese expansionism?
User avatar
Son of Mathonwy
Posts: 5118
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Son of Mathonwy »

Digby wrote:Trump then is, or at least his actions are, a Purim miracle, and Pompeo conceded in response to a question that it was possible Trump was sent by God to save Israel

Which I guess is nice, but it's a challenging thing to accept we should just move on when it comes to the Golan Heights. Against which you could reasonably claim the entirety of Israel is an illegal occupation and yet I'm happy to accept much of that as a fait accompli

So are my concerns with Trump's latest really about Israel, Syria and Iran, or actually are my concerns more rooted in what Trump is in effect saying about Russian and even Chinese expansionism?
He seems to be arguing that Might = Right, or international law does not exist.

Which is great news (rationally) for anyone with a lot of might, and (irrationality) for psychopaths anywhere.
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

He isn't arguing anything. That would require knowledge he simply does not possess. It is a crude attempt at securing votes for the next US general election. Was he led into it by more informed actors? Probably...
User avatar
Son of Mathonwy
Posts: 5118
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 4:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Son of Mathonwy »

morepork wrote:He isn't arguing anything. That would require knowledge he simply does not possess. It is a crude attempt at securing votes for the next US general election. Was he led into it by more informed actors? Probably...
He may not understand what he is arguing, and who knows the origin of this latest flicker of neural activity, but international law is weakened by every such statement.
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

Agreed. This is exactly the sort of nuance that escapes the filter between Mr. brain and the smart phone. In the same vein is the renouncement of sanctions on North Korea announced by his own department of treasury. Coherent policy? The fuck it is. Ramble on, I suppose.
WaspInWales
Posts: 3623
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:46 pm

Re: Trump

Post by WaspInWales »

So, no there will be no further indictments as a result of Mueller's investigation. This will no doubt be claimed a massive victory for Trump, even though it has already led to a number of arrests, charges, successful prosecutions and prison time for a number of people close to the campaign.

There was plenty of talk of Trump Jr, amongst others of getting charges but as with much of the noise related to Trump, both for and against, it was just noise it seems.

Pelosi talked down the likelihood of impeachment not long ago.

Is that it then?

I thought the house was still going after Trump's tax returns and the finances of family members and associates.
User avatar
Sandydragon
Posts: 10555
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:13 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Sandydragon »

Sounds like he got close, but not close enough. Donald had his minions to do the dirty work.
Banquo
Posts: 19370
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:52 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Banquo »

seems to have covered any tracks so far. Somebody is cleverer than they look/appear
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

Maybe, but that person is not Trump. He is an easy mark and some of the more careless greedy fucks around him got burned. The real issue here is that he appears not to have reached out for help with the election, but it seems pretty clear that someone has reached out to his people. It would be an exercise in futility trying to get this security point across to Trump, and it's now a full blown case of social media being the primary source of information right up to the tippy top. I've about had a guts full. People here are so fucking illogical and manipulated it's ridiculous. I'm now thinking that this most incompetent of human beings is in with with very real shot at a second term. Fuck my life.
Banquo
Posts: 19370
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:52 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Banquo »

morepork wrote:Maybe, but that person is not Trump. He is an easy mark and some of the more careless greedy fucks around him got burned. The real issue here is that he appears not to have reached out for help with the election, but it seems pretty clear that someone has reached out to his people. It would be an exercise in futility trying to get this security point across to Trump, and it's now a full blown case of social media being the primary source of information right up to the tippy top. I've about had a guts full. People here are so fucking illogical and manipulated it's ridiculous. I'm now thinking that this most incompetent of human beings is in with with very real shot at a second term. Fuck my life.
fraid so. The attacks have been clumsily done tbh, because it looked such an easy target, and have served to entrench his narrative.
This book has just made it over here

Commander in Cheat: How Golf Explains Trump

Excerpts show what an a55 he really is, like we didnt know!
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

The administration sends a statement of warning to producers of media sources to urge scrutiny of specific commentators that they accuse of spreading unfounded false claims. The irony hard drive is full and has spontaneously combusted. The hypocrisy back up is showing signs of failing. Social media is now the vehicle of choice. Fuck my arse.
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Meh, what can go wrong if we accept failing to endorse all things Trump equates to treason?
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Turns out the problem in Puerto Rico was too much disaster relief, who knew
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

I'm in favour of a healthy defence spend bur not as much as most US governments and certainly not as much as Trump, so I've some sympathy with some of the thinking going into this article

https://amp-theguardian-com.cdn.ampproj ... ry-immoral

That said they're making it too easy to dismiss their comments with the odd analysis on the percentage of military spend. They could still make a very valid point without representing the situation as being quite that bad when common sense says it can't be close to it
User avatar
Puja
Posts: 17851
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2016 9:16 pm

Re: Trump

Post by Puja »

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ats-226168

Good article. Trump is clearly dirty, but if the Dems insist on chasing it in the absence of ineluctable evidence, they're just going to cement his narrative of them being pissy losers trying to persecute and drag down the heroic man of the people. They need to beat him on their own merits.

Puja
Backist Monk
User avatar
Stom
Posts: 5847
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:57 am

Re: Trump

Post by Stom »

Puja wrote:https://www.politico.com/magazine/story ... ats-226168

Good article. Trump is clearly dirty, but if the Dems insist on chasing it in the absence of ineluctable evidence, they're just going to cement his narrative of them being pissy losers trying to persecute and drag down the heroic man of the people. They need to beat him on their own merits.

Puja
Which is why Pelosi said it was a waste of time to try and impeach him.
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

It's all FUBAR. By all means check if a foreign power has an actual access close to or in government, but let's get on with it. Everything in the political landscape is framed as a "win" or a "loss", just fuel for internet memes. Let's start seeing some cost-benefit analysis of tarrifs, welfare cuts, obsecene military spending, drastic remodeling of education and health care being put forward.
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

"Puerto Rico has been taken care of better by Donald Trump than by any living human being"

President Donald Trump on Thursday repeated his criticism of wind-based renewable energy, saying that the wind does not always blow.
"If it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for that night," he said at a rally in Michigan. "Darling, I want to watch television.' 'I'm sorry! The wind isn't blowing.' I know a lot about wind," he added.
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

One can only admire his soaring rhetoric on withdrawal of funding for neighbouring states and the possible closure of the border with Mexico. Given the tortuous mental reasoning it can only be a matter of time before he moves to protect Americans from the dangers posed by the sun and by oxygen
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

I actually heard a young dumb and full of cum hitler youth haircut-sporting wanker in a supermarket this morning saying this is a good thing, and "If it was Obama, he would fund these places and install dictators".


History....not so much in USandA.
Digby
Posts: 13436
Joined: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:17 am

Re: Trump

Post by Digby »

Digby wrote:One can only admire his soaring rhetoric on withdrawal of funding for neighbouring states and the possible closure of the border with Mexico. Given the tortuous mental reasoning it can only be a matter of time before he moves to protect Americans from the dangers posed by the sun and by oxygen
I stand corrected having said funding was being cut to three neighbouring states, money is actually being cut from three Mexican countries
User avatar
morepork
Posts: 7535
Joined: Wed Feb 10, 2016 1:50 pm

Re: Trump

Post by morepork »

Geography...not so much in USandA...
Post Reply