America

[Eugene Wrayburn]

This will cheer you up I’m sure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... allup-poll

What on earth are they all approving of?

ffs

Scared people rallying around the flag.

They did that, then wised up. This appears to be something else.

[Digby]

This will cheer you up I’m sure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... allup-poll

What on earth are they all approving of?

ffs

Scared people rallying around the flag.

Ah, so that's called rallying

[Son of Mathonwy]

ffs

Scared people rallying around the flag.

Ah, so that's called rallying

Eww, that doesn't look consensual.

[morepork]

Welcome to the United States of Comedy. You are about to witness the most predictable mistaken social experiment in contemporary history as millions of thick cunts are worked into a rage over their privilege being infringed and.....stuff.....by a fat puppet with the functional literacy of a 12 year old born of an alcoholic chain smoking mother who is himself manipulated by a small inbred clique of ultra wealthy that need some cannon fodder in the war on science and logic.


China.....it's all yours from here on in.

[Sandydragon]

Scared people rallying around the flag.

Ah, so that's called rallying

Eww, that doesn't look consensual.

At this point I feel Melina is earning every penny.

[Sandydragon]

This will cheer you up I’m sure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... allup-poll

What on earth are they all approving of?

Unfortunately Biden seems a bit anonymous at the moment. Trump is basically campaigning against himself, and if we wasn’t such a retard he would be doing a lot better.

[Which Tyler]

[Sandydragon]

FFS

[Digby]

Fine people

[Eugene Wrayburn]

This will cheer you up I’m sure.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4 ... allup-poll

What on earth are they all approving of?

Unfortunately Biden seems a bit anonymous at the moment. Trump is basically campaigning against himself, and if we wasn’t such a retard he would be doing a lot better.

There's pretty much fuck all he can do right now to get a hearing. He's doing a lot of the right things with his youtube stuff etc, but he needs to find ways of amplifying his signal. He could do worse than hiring Buttigeig's digital lead who has some really interesting ideas.

[Digby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

Fine people no doubt

[gransoporro]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

Fine people no doubt

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

[Sandydragon]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

Fine people no doubt

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

[Digby]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

Fine people no doubt

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

I suspect the police and the GBI will be asked a number of questions about their utter failure to act until publicly shamed to the point avoidance was no longer viable

[Sandydragon]

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

I suspect the police and the GBI will be asked a number of questions about their utter failure to act until publicly shamed to the point avoidance was no longer viable

Police definitely, was the FBI involved, it was a local case after all?

[gransoporro]

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

I suspect the police and the GBI will be asked a number of questions about their utter failure to act until publicly shamed to the point avoidance was no longer viable

Police definitely, was the FBI involved, it was a local case after all?

No, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was. Since the suspect was a local police officer, there was a series of recusations until it went up to State for policing and some neighbor county DA that decided to act.

Still, if there is no video, no arrests.

My wife lived in Brunswick for over a decade: I get all the news...

[Coco]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52585505

Fine people no doubt

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

[Digby]

Continues a fine tradition of smearing the victim, always good to establish blame early in proceedings

[Son of Mathonwy]

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

And whether innocent or guilty makes no difference to whether this is potentially murder.

[Digby]

I suspect the police and the GBI will be asked a number of questions about their utter failure to act until publicly shamed to the point avoidance was no longer viable

Police definitely, was the FBI involved, it was a local case after all?

No, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation was. Since the suspect was a local police officer, there was a series of recusations until it went up to State for policing and some neighbor county DA that decided to act.

Still, if there is no video, no arrests.

My wife lived in Brunswick for over a decade: I get all the news...

We've seen scientific proof that unless you're getting your news in Turkish it's invalid

[Puja]

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

There's no info that he was anything to do with the burglaries/robberies in the area. There's quite a bit of posthumous implying, speculation, and ostentatious mentioning that he had a previous criminal record (notably no-one has brought up that his record involves violence or theft, which suggests that it probably doesn't), but no-one has mentioned him being involved in robberies or burglaries, apart from the murderers deciding that a running black man was probably that robber that they'd heard about.

And it's entirely beside the point anyway - even if he was parading around with the crown jewels round his neck, singing about how he'd beaten the guards silly and pissed in their faces, he shouldn't have been chased down by two members of the public and then shot. Because vigilantism isn't legal and neither robbery nor burglary carry a death penalty.

Puja

[morepork]

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

There's no info that he was anything to do with the burglaries/robberies in the area. There's quite a bit of posthumous implying, speculation, and ostentatious mentioning that he had a previous criminal record (notably no-one has brought up that his record involves violence or theft, which suggests that it probably doesn't), but no-one has mentioned him being involved in robberies or burglaries, apart from the murderers deciding that a running black man was probably that robber that they'd heard about.

And it's entirely beside the point anyway - even if he was parading around with the crown jewels round his neck, singing about how he'd beaten the guards silly and pissed in their faces, he shouldn't have been chased down by two members of the public and then shot. Because vigilantism isn't legal and neither robbery nor burglary carry a death penalty.

Puja

Ever the diplomat. It's quite sad that one would be compelled to point these things out, isn't it?

[Coco]

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

There's no info that he was anything to do with the burglaries/robberies in the area. There's quite a bit of posthumous implying, speculation, and ostentatious mentioning that he had a previous criminal record (notably no-one has brought up that his record involves violence or theft, which suggests that it probably doesn't), but no-one has mentioned him being involved in robberies or burglaries, apart from the murderers deciding that a running black man was probably that robber that they'd heard about.

And it's entirely beside the point anyway - even if he was parading around with the crown jewels round his neck, singing about how he'd beaten the guards silly and pissed in their faces, he shouldn't have been chased down by two members of the public and then shot. Because vigilantism isn't legal and neither robbery nor burglary carry a death penalty.

Puja

Agree... its insane.

[Maximillian]

Even the Georgia governor condemned the killing. Now, TGPT can still pipe in, but hopefully he has been told to sit this one out.

Nothing like a bit of racist vigilantism. And the local police seemed to have gone out of their way not to follow up on this.

https://www.wbtv.com/2020/05/07/gbi-men ... ud-arbery/

Sad and unwarranted. There is more info coming out that he was fingered by several people as being the suspect in a string of burglaries/robberies in the area. Even so... innocent til proven guilty. Those 2 yahoos need to be in jail.

Indeed. Quite sad. 26 yo? That's nothing.

Legally, this is a tricky one. I think that McMichaels will claim that he was acting in self defence. It'll be interesting to hear what the court says, but imagine for a moment that you suspected me of committing a felony and you decided to detain me. Then, I suddenly lunged at you to grab your automatic weapon. How would you respond? Would you flee? Discharge a shot? Relinquish your weapon?

BTW, according to Georgian law, you'd be perfectly entitled to make a citizens arrest if reasonable and probable grounds exist:

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... ng-Jp.html

A tragedy nonetheless.

[gransoporro]

There is also a statute for doing a citizen arrest under false pretense.

The victim is shown trespassing in a house under construction: that is a misdemeanor not a felony. He did not steal nor damage the property.

Also, from the victim’s point of view, he is assaulted by 3 people, one in front of him with a shotgun. That is kidnapping and he has the right to protect himself.

There are no burglaries reported to the police in the last month or 2 in that are. One guy said they stole over $1000 in fishing equipment from him but never reported to the police. That is clearly a dubious claim. Lots of people there live on less than $40k a year. $1000 is a huge sum!