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Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:24 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:21 pm
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:18 pm i suppose the bright side is that under previous regimes we'd be 120-5 rather than 210-5 (possibly).
That's the thing, isn't it? May as well make hay for a quick 35-40 rather than be boxed into a corner and get out for a scratchy 17-18.

Root and Bairstow wrenching the game back - 262-5 with Root starting to reverse scoop Boland for 6. A wicket will still make the outlook very different, but looking better now and we're batting deeper than usual with Moeen still to come.

Puja
Yjb remarkable after so long out and under a lot of pressure. Pleased to be wrong about him a couple of years back.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:43 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:24 pm
Puja wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:21 pm
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 3:18 pm i suppose the bright side is that under previous regimes we'd be 120-5 rather than 210-5 (possibly).
That's the thing, isn't it? May as well make hay for a quick 35-40 rather than be boxed into a corner and get out for a scratchy 17-18.

Root and Bairstow wrenching the game back - 262-5 with Root starting to reverse scoop Boland for 6. A wicket will still make the outlook very different, but looking better now and we're batting deeper than usual with Moeen still to come.

Puja
Yjb remarkable after so long out and under a lot of pressure. Pleased to be wrong about him a couple of years back.
Why did you say that?

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:52 pm
by Banquo
Stom wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:43 pm
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:24 pm
Puja wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:21 pm

That's the thing, isn't it? May as well make hay for a quick 35-40 rather than be boxed into a corner and get out for a scratchy 17-18.

Root and Bairstow wrenching the game back - 262-5 with Root starting to reverse scoop Boland for 6. A wicket will still make the outlook very different, but looking better now and we're batting deeper than usual with Moeen still to come.

Puja
Yjb remarkable after so long out and under a lot of pressure. Pleased to be wrong about him a couple of years back.
Why did you say that?
Cos he had another run of bad scores after being recalled for the third time and had a major technical fault on the off stump and his overall average was 34, and we had plenty of lower middle order options. He then promptly got into a mega rich vein of form ;)

Played well here, but like Stokes got himself out.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:54 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:52 pm
Stom wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:43 pm
Banquo wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 4:24 pm

Yjb remarkable after so long out and under a lot of pressure. Pleased to be wrong about him a couple of years back.
Why did you say that?
Cos he had another run of bad scores after being recalled for the third time and had a major technical fault on the off stump and his overall average was 34, and we had plenty of lower middle order options. He then promptly got into a mega rich vein of form ;)

Played well here, but like Stokes got himself out.
Literally read your comment as he got out, lol.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:03 pm
by Puja
Moeen's clearly understood the assignment - 18 off 15 balls so far, including a 6 and a 4 off a Cummins over.

ETA. And stumped. Bugger.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:04 pm
by Banquo
Suppose you have to take the rough with the smooth with Bazball but Ali and YJB were very rash and have let Aus right back.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:06 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:03 pm Moeen's clearly understood the assignment - 18 off 15 balls so far, including a 6 and a 4 off a Cummins over.

ETA. And stumped. Bugger.

Puja
As above, I think that was daft. There were men out for it as well had he connected. The earlier batsmen were scoring at 5 an over knocking into gaps.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:53 pm
by Banquo
Root you legend.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 5:57 pm
by Banquo
Robinson been excellent supporting him to his ton

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:01 pm
by Banquo
wow.....declaration.....not sure. we shall see

Lyon....bowled well, but conceded near 150 ....must be some sort of near record in one day?

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:18 pm
by Puja
Declaration. Bloody hell, no-one can ever question whether Stokes has minerals. Wouldn't've been what I'd do - could've been another 50-60 runs left with Root still in and Robinson hardly looking shaky, but it's knocking the Aussies off-balance and far better than if we lost the last two wickets cheaply and gave them the upper hand. If we get a wicket tonight, it was the right call. Otherwise, I'm really not sure.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:33 pm
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Fri Jun 16, 2023 6:18 pm Declaration. Bloody hell, no-one can ever question whether Stokes has minerals. Wouldn't've been what I'd do - could've been another 50-60 runs left with Root still in and Robinson hardly looking shaky, but it's knocking the Aussies off-balance and far better than if we lost the last two wickets cheaply and gave them the upper hand. If we get a wicket tonight, it was the right call. Otherwise, I'm really not sure.

Puja
Yep as I thought too. And no wicket….so let’s see. Fair play, unconventional- no Jimmy to open too.

Great days cricket. What a great game test cricket is.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:39 am
by Banquo
yeah...that yjb :lol:

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:53 pm
by Banquo
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:39 am yeah...that yjb :lol:
yeah but...shame about missed stumping, easy one

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:47 pm
by Puja
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:53 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:39 am yeah...that yjb :lol:
yeah but...shame about missed stumping, easy one
And now a dropped catch. He's just not a Test quality wicketkeeper and, when chances are as rare as they have been on this track, he'll cost more runs than the batting difference between him and Foakes. I think we need him as a batter or not at all.

Not a clue who we'd drop for him though. Possibly Pope, although that requires pushing Root to 3 where he doesn't want to go.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:51 pm
by Puja
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:lol: Probably not wrong.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:39 am
by Puja
Puja wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:47 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:53 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:39 am yeah...that yjb :lol:
yeah but...shame about missed stumping, easy one
And now a dropped catch. He's just not a Test quality wicketkeeper and, when chances are as rare as they have been on this track, he'll cost more runs than the batting difference between him and Foakes. I think we need him as a batter or not at all.

Not a clue who we'd drop for him though. Possibly Pope, although that requires pushing Root to 3 where he doesn't want to go.

Puja
Total of 2 drops and the stumping for the day, although the last drop was admittedly difficult for a keeper. Bairstow's fine keeping to pace, but he's just not capable enough when standing up to the stumps for spinners. If any of those had stuck, we'd've been looking at a very different day today.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:31 am
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 2:39 am
Puja wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 5:47 pm
Banquo wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:53 pm
yeah but...shame about missed stumping, easy one
And now a dropped catch. He's just not a Test quality wicketkeeper and, when chances are as rare as they have been on this track, he'll cost more runs than the batting difference between him and Foakes. I think we need him as a batter or not at all.

Not a clue who we'd drop for him though. Possibly Pope, although that requires pushing Root to 3 where he doesn't want to go.

Puja
Total of 2 drops and the stumping for the day, although the last drop was admittedly difficult for a keeper. Bairstow's fine keeping to pace, but he's just not capable enough when standing up to the stumps for spinners. If any of those had stuck, we'd've been looking at a very different day today.

Puja
The Green miss was the key one, very bad.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:19 am
by Banquo
another one dropped by yjb- Lack of cricket showing across the side. We are in trouble, from what should have been a good position.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:24 am
by Puja
Anderson has clearly decided that, if he wants a wicket, it's best not to involve Bairstow at all.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:29 am
by Banquo
well done jimmy. not much luck tl then.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:33 am
by Puja
TMS quipping that Carey finished on 66-4. :(

Moeen's getting quite a bit of turn already. Quite glad we'd bowling last.

Puja

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:54 am
by Banquo
Puja wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:33 am TMS quipping that Carey finished on 66-4. :(

Moeen's getting quite a bit of turn already. Quite glad we'd bowling last.

Puja
unfortunately his spinning finger be fckd

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:22 pm
by Stom
Banquo wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:54 am
Puja wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:33 am TMS quipping that Carey finished on 66-4. :(

Moeen's getting quite a bit of turn already. Quite glad we'd bowling last.

Puja
unfortunately his spinning finger be fckd
Calling back someone who has played no long form cricket in 18 months has no downsides, no, none at all.

Re: Cricket fred

Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:42 pm
by Puja
Stom wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 1:22 pm
Banquo wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:54 am
Puja wrote: Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:33 am TMS quipping that Carey finished on 66-4. :(

Moeen's getting quite a bit of turn already. Quite glad we'd bowling last.

Puja
unfortunately his spinning finger be fckd
Calling back someone who has played no long form cricket in 18 months has no downsides, no, none at all.
When the other option was Dawson though...

Thankfully, he can hopefully have a nice, long rest and ice on it while England bat. Great result to get Australia out for under our first innings, especially while having to rest the spinner. If Ali can be got fit-esque for the second innings, then we're in a great position in this test. If we can put 250+ on the board, then this pitch is only going to get worse.

Puja