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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Another good performance by Bradbury last night.

Some very good competition in that back row now.

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Why was that Connacht 8 not taken off for a HIA?

Another hard fought win and 6 on the trot. Building in to a decent side.
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OptimisticJock wrote:Why was that Connacht 8 not taken off for a HIA?

Another hard fought win and 6 on the trot. Building in to a decent side.
Poor reffing to be honest.

Yeah another good win. That's all 4 Irish provinces turned over in the last 5 games.

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Big D wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Why was that Connacht 8 not taken off for a HIA?

Another hard fought win and 6 on the trot. Building in to a decent side.
Poor reffing to be honest.

Yeah another good win. That's all 4 Irish provinces turned over in the last 5 games.

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Surely Connacht have to take some of the blame too though?
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OptimisticJock wrote:
Big D wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:Why was that Connacht 8 not taken off for a HIA?

Another hard fought win and 6 on the trot. Building in to a decent side.
Poor reffing to be honest.

Yeah another good win. That's all 4 Irish provinces turned over in the last 5 games.

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Surely Connacht have to take some of the blame too though?
Agreed. Although clowncy had best view
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Both Ulster and Scarlets lose without bonus points

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Scarlets get nothing from Munster.

The ed v weeg semi final will be something to behold if it comes off.
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The Cardiff result is a great one for us, though worrying ahead of the semi-final. We've won ugly a few times now but that only works for so long.

I enjoy the run ins I think that Scarlets are not going to be catchable but for there to even be a conversation is remarkable at this point in the season. I notice that Treviso are also only a point behind Ulster (albeit having played a game more). It would be great for the league if they somehow managed to finish ahead of them and their remaining schedule is pretty kind Drqgons and Zebre) whilst Ulster seem to be imploding.
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It's a shame Leinster's run in is so easy... 2nd is within Edinburgh's control though.
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Has there been any actual concrete talk of pyrgos moving over? I'm not his biggest fan but feel he could improve that Edinburgh team and would be better for him than being third choice at Glasgow.
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Cameo wrote:Has there been any actual concrete talk of pyrgos moving over? I'm not his biggest fan but feel he could improve that Edinburgh team and would be better for him than being third choice at Glasgow.
He's one that should be cut from the SRU apron strings.
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Who should Edinburgh be signing at 9 then?
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I have no idea who is available.

As things stand and given SRUs track record on players serving out their contract there are 3 full time 9s on the books for 18/19. Two of them are poor and clear improvement is needed.

Pyrgos, from what I have seen, is better than what is there this season but has regressed from a season or two ago. That is despite the best coaching and surrounding talent Scotland has to offer. On that basis I'd rather not offer him a 2 or 3 year deal and get tied into a bad contract. If he wants a budget friendly one year deal then depending on who is available then fine.

Very few of the Glasgow players that have outlived their usefulness at Glasgow have done consistently well for Edinburgh.
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Big D wrote:I have no idea who is available.

As things stand and given SRUs track record on players serving out their contract there are 3 full time 9s on the books for 18/19. Two of them are poor and clear improvement is needed.

Pyrgos, from what I have seen, is better than what is there this season but has regressed from a season or two ago. That is despite the best coaching and surrounding talent Scotland has to offer. On that basis I'd rather not offer him a 2 or 3 year deal and get tied into a bad contract. If he wants a budget friendly one year deal then depending on who is available then fine.

Very few of the Glasgow players that have outlived their usefulness at Glasgow have done consistently well for Edinburgh.
Who do you have in mind here? I don't really think there is enough volume to draw an accurate conclusion. K Bryce and D Weir stand out as failures but there are some pretty dire circumstances.

Either way the 3 best scrum halves in Scotland play for Glasgow IMO. The redistribution of resources makes complete sense but I agree that Edinburgh should be aiming for better.
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I thought there were more but now i think about who, there are only 4 that I can think of and wasn't really counting Bennett.

It is a very small sample size and one that shouldn't be used.

I still wouldn't give him any more than a year if he were to sign. Make him earn a 2nd deal.
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Big D wrote:I thought there were more but now i think about who, there are only 4 that I can think of and wasn't really counting Bennett.

It is a very small sample size and one that shouldn't be used.

I still wouldn't give him any more than a year if he were to sign. Make him earn a 2nd deal.
So I can think of Bryce x2, Weir, Reid and technically Ford and Cairns. Is there anyone else?

Going the other way there has been Hall, Kellock, Dewey, Leonardi, Lee Jones, Brown, Allen, Grant and Fusaro. Seems to have been much more talent heading west over the years.
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So.. big game eh?
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hugh_woatmeigh wrote:So.. big game eh?
Weirdly being slightly eclipsed by Embra’s unexpected run at qualification for the real cup.

Java, are you going to this?
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Edinburgh in Exile wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:So.. big game eh?
Weirdly being slightly eclipsed by Embra’s unexpected run at qualification for the real cup.

Java, are you going to this?
Nail on head wee man. Next week they have a chance to secure something the club hasn't had for 4 seasons now and lot of focus is on that too. So it's somewhat split.

Selection will be interesting.
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Edinburgh in Exile wrote:
hugh_woatmeigh wrote:So.. big game eh?
Weirdly being slightly eclipsed by Embra’s unexpected run at qualification for the real cup.

Java, are you going to this?
Don’t think so. Heading to the ulster game the week after.
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Looking back over the seasons league results the only result that they should be really disappointed with is the home loss to Treviso in September.

4 away losses to Scarlets and Leinster in September, the Cheetahs and Glasgow. They've won all their home games bar the one above.

Overall a very good first season in charge for Cockerill.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/43528437

Didn't realise Cockerill had a win rate of 75%. I know they're in the small euro cup but that's still a great rate.

If the current trajectory continues then I'd hope Dodson is having a sit down with him in the summer with a view to get his contract extended.
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What I don't get is how Solomons' success rate is so close to Robinson's. Not how I remember those times
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no sleep wrote:What I don't get is how Solomons' success rate is so close to Robinson's. Not how I remember those times
Robinson had a horrible Euro campaign twice and had a mediocre season followed by a good season
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whatisthejava wrote:
no sleep wrote:What I don't get is how Solomons' success rate is so close to Robinson's. Not how I remember those times
Robinson had a horrible Euro campaign twice and had a mediocre season followed by a good season
Yeah - was gonna post that at that time edinburgh’s coaches seemed to go through a cycle of appointment - season of transition - season of disappointment - fired half-way through. Think Robinson bucked the trend before getting the scotland job. However, the circle of shite picked up again soon afterwards at both Edinburgh and Scotland. Hopefully we’ve moved on..!
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