American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end.
Am I making any sense because I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner... lol
Do you use "Social justice warrior" as a pejorative?
That and Generation Snowflake. Both very apt pejoratives.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:41 pm
by UGagain
Coco wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Coco wrote:
American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end.
Am I making any sense because I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner... lol
What do you think the TeeVee is doing to the rest of the population?
Americans are the most terrified population on the planet. Terrified by invented boogeymen.
But the rest of us are catching up fast.
Who or what is the boogeyman?
Muslims, communists, Putin, the deficit, social security. Whatever they want you to be terrified of, Americans will oblige.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:46 pm
by Coco
UGagain wrote:
Coco wrote:
UGagain wrote:
What do you think the TeeVee is doing to the rest of the population?
Americans are the most terrified population on the planet. Terrified by invented boogeymen.
But the rest of us are catching up fast.
Who or what is the boogeyman?
Muslims, communists, Putin, the deficit, social security. Whatever they want you to be terrified of, Americans will oblige.
I'm American and not terrified of any of those things, am I missing something?
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:53 pm
by cashead
Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 9:58 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
What did he get?
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:01 pm
by WaspInWales
A Monica?
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:59 pm
by cashead
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
What did he get?
The biggie is that she's adopted his college tuition plan (or a version of it) where in-state public colleges and universities will be subsidised for low-income families, and the other major is that there will be expanded public healthcare funding and coverage, which will go from $3.6B to $40B.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:10 pm
by jared_7
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
Well, time will tell. At the moment he is getting rhetoric but Obama had that in droves. Lets see how his policy pillars play out once Clinton is in power. My guess is it will be sweet F. A. There are already things like the TPPA which Clinton has been a huge supporter of, where she has pulled her support but "conveniently" her representatives on the DNC policy committee are still supporting. She is still the largest receiver of Wall Street funds of any candidate on either side.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 11:20 pm
by cashead
jared_7 wrote:
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
Well, time will tell. At the moment he is getting rhetoric but Obama had that in droves. Lets see how his policy pillars play out once Clinton is in power. My guess is it will be sweet F. A. There are already things like the TPPA which Clinton has been a huge supporter of, where she has pulled her support but "conveniently" her representatives on the DNC policy committee are still supporting. She is still the largest receiver of Wall Street funds of any candidate on either side.
But then, realistically, she is the DNC candidate that won the nomination, and no amount of undignified foot stomping nor all the tanties in the world is going to change that. You work with what is there, and what some here are suggesting Sanders ought to have done will do far more harm for all quarters than good - if any.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:40 am
by UGagain
jared_7 wrote:
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
Well, time will tell. At the moment he is getting rhetoric but Obama had that in droves. Lets see how his policy pillars play out once Clinton is in power. My guess is it will be sweet F. A. There are already things like the TPPA which Clinton has been a huge supporter of, where she has pulled her support but "conveniently" her representatives on the DNC policy committee are still supporting. She is still the largest receiver of Wall Street funds of any candidate on either side.
Agreed. It's easy for her to lie and say she believes in 'progressive' stuff and then do nothing or do the opposite. Bernie supporters imo know that she's the opposite of progressive. She's an extreme neoliberal economically and a neoconservative on foreign policy.
It's all about the rich for her.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:06 am
by canta_brian
Any reason that sanders couldn't have stood as an independent? Did he see that as handing the white house to trump?
On a more basic level, could an independent president ever get policy through the Senate?
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:29 am
by UGagain
canta_brian wrote:Any reason that sanders couldn't have stood as an independent? Did he see that as handing the white house to trump?
On a more basic level, could an independent president ever get policy through the Senate?
It's almost impossible to get on the ballot and totally impossible to get into the debates. He could conceivably have run on the Green Party ticket but would have had to make the move before the Dem convention.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:32 am
by UGagain
Vengeful Glutton wrote:
cashead wrote:
Coco wrote:
American colleges (specifically state funded colleges) tend to adhere to the mantra of "Submission to ideas" rather than "Permission to ideas", along with all the pushing of Trigger-Warnings, Safe-Space (safe area) etc. etc...list goes on... Pussyfying students to the point where they become offended or fearful of things they WILL eventually experience in the real world. They should be encouraging them to debate ideas and develop their own critical thinking skills so they are able to think for themselves, and cope with life without being offended at every twist and turn. You cannot wander through life with a helmet on, and a pillow under your rear end.
Am I making any sense because I had 2 glasses of wine with dinner... lol
Do you use "Social justice warrior" as a pejorative?
That and Generation Snowflake. Both very apt pejoratives.
First Breitbart and now this islamophobic nut job Watson?
Dude, please.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:58 am
by cashead
canta_brian wrote:Any reason that sanders couldn't have stood as an independent? Did he see that as handing the white house to trump?
On a more basic level, could an independent president ever get policy through the Senate?
The better question would be "could an independent ever be president?" (No.)
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:20 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:Interesting to see how there hasn't been any mention of what Sanders got and probably will get out of Clinton in exchange for an endorsement.
What did he get?
The biggie is that she's adopted his college tuition plan (or a version of it) where in-state public colleges and universities will be subsidised for low-income families, and the other major is that there will be expanded public healthcare funding and coverage, which will go from $3.6B to $40B.
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:31 am
by cashead
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
What did he get?
The biggie is that she's adopted his college tuition plan (or a version of it) where in-state public colleges and universities will be subsidised for low-income families, and the other major is that there will be expanded public healthcare funding and coverage, which will go from $3.6B to $40B.
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:06 am
by UGagain
Coco wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Coco wrote:
Who or what is the boogeyman?
Muslims, communists, Putin, the deficit, social security. Whatever they want you to be terrified of, Americans will oblige.
I'm American and not terrified of any of those things, am I missing something?
Yes you are. Americans are collectively terrified regularly and consistently.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:17 am
by jared_7
UGagain wrote:
canta_brian wrote:Any reason that sanders couldn't have stood as an independent? Did he see that as handing the white house to trump?
On a more basic level, could an independent president ever get policy through the Senate?
It's almost impossible to get on the ballot and totally impossible to get into the debates. He could conceivably have run on the Green Party ticket but would have had to make the move before the Dem convention.
Its also impossible to get anything done once you are in power (if you managed to get there), as the houses are filled with Democrats and Republicans. We've seen how much of a stalemate its been with the Democrats in the white house but not quite controlling the senate, you could imagine how impossible it would be for an independent who literally has no support.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 10:30 am
by Eugene Wrayburn
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
The biggie is that she's adopted his college tuition plan (or a version of it) where in-state public colleges and universities will be subsidised for low-income families, and the other major is that there will be expanded public healthcare funding and coverage, which will go from $3.6B to $40B.
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 11:22 am
by UGagain
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
Reading your comments is like watching the mainstream news.
Its all so irrelevant.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 1:39 pm
by Vengeful Glutton
UGagain wrote:
Yes you are. Americans are collectively terrified regularly and consistently.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:58 pm
by morepork
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
Don't even joke about that.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:01 pm
by cashead
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Good luck to her on getting that spending past Congress!
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
As it stands, it would be largely contingent on how the Dems do in the midterms, so I guess it'd be a "watch this space." The way things are going, I wouldn't be too surprised if that set of elections goes against the established norm.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:02 pm
by cashead
UGagain wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
cashead wrote:
Considering the sheer jump, it's probably a ploy. Give a number that'll get the Republicunts shitting themselves, and scale it down to what would be a comparatively reasonable number.
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
Reading your comments is like watching the mainstream news.
Its all so irrelevant.
You don't fucking learn, don't you? Didn't you get banned once already for acting like a complete sack of dicks? You post a thread about how "discussion is dying in this part of the forums," it' this kind of shit that contributes to it, you fucking crybaby.
Re: Bernie was a sheepdog after all.
Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2016 9:13 pm
by Eugene Wrayburn
cashead wrote:
UGagain wrote:
Eugene Wrayburn wrote:
Sadly getting Republicans to agree to ANY increased funding will be pretty tricky, particularly for Hillary. Unless it's arming the police with more paramilitary weapons.
Reading your comments is like watching the mainstream news.
Its all so irrelevant.
You don't fucking learn, don't you? Didn't you get banned once already for acting like a complete sack of dicks? You post a thread about how "discussion is dying in this part of the forums," it' this kind of shit that contributes to it, you fucking crybaby.
Cas, I basically ignore him. He got banned for being abusive. I couldn't give a monkey's what he thinks of my posts.
