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Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:47 pm
by Mellsblue
The citing officer is going to be a busy boy tomorrow.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:48 pm
by Donny osmond
How is that scrum penalty not a card if Fiji are marching toward the try line, when the Fijian was binned for collapsing a maul that was heading toward the try line?
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:49 pm
by Mellsblue
Bin the Wales capt!
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:55 pm
by Mellsblue
What?!?!!!?
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:55 pm
by Which Tyler
Oh F*** off Carley
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:57 pm
by FKAS
Another warning for Wales. Carley is pathetic.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:01 pm
by Which Tyler
Carley has changed the result today - utterly inept
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:03 pm
by Mellsblue
What a match! I feel quite emotional!
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:07 pm
by Puja
Fiji utterly rooked by Carley today. They could not catch a break, while Wales gave away so many penalties on their goalline without punishment and cheated in every single ruck. I mean, fair play, you play the ref, but Fiji were completely done over.
Puja
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pm
by Lizard
Wales conceded 17 penalties, 13 in their own half, and got 2 warnings for 1 yellow card.
Fiji conceded 9 with 6 in their half for no warnings (as far as I could hear) and 1 yellow.
Poor reffing performance.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pm
by FKAS
Embarrassing from the officials. Tell them they aren't coming home until they redeem themselves.
Fiji still nearly did it inspite of the officials.
I'm sure the Fijian president will have some choice words for the World Rugby representatives. How on earth is the game supposed to grow with bullshit calls like that.
Consistency on head to head is already a farce. Curry gets red, the Chile captain gets yellow and then Kriel (Biggar now as well) aren't even reviewed.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:12 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pm
Embarrassing from the officials. Tell them they aren't coming home until they redeem themselves.
What happened to the good old naughty step?
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:12 pm
by Which Tyler
Lizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pmPoor reffing performance.
I nominate you, the board king of understatement
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 pm
by Mellsblue
think the biggest issue that caused Fiji’s loss was knocking on in contact and a terrible few mins straight after halftime. Not that Carley covered himself in glory in the second half.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:16 pm
by Mellsblue
Which Tyler wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:12 pm
Lizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:10 pmPoor reffing performance.
I nominate you, the board king of understatement
Probably trying to even out the hyperbole from others.
It’s also not as good as ‘Dominator of the SHMB’.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:16 pm
by Mellsblue
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:22 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 pm
think the biggest issue that caused Fiji’s loss was knocking on in contact and a terrible few mins straight after halftime. Not that Carley covered himself in glory in the second half.
Losing their flyhalf to injury before the world cup was a massive blow. No high percentage kicker meant they were always kicking for the corner or opting for the scrum. Couldn't just keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:24 pm
by FKAS
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:28 pm
by SixAndAHalf
Donny osmond wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 9:48 pm
How is that scrum penalty not a card if Fiji are marching toward the try line, when the Fijian was binned for collapsing a maul that was heading toward the try line?
It was bizarre that he even called that up without giving a penalty try - there was no safety issue and they were heading to the line at a rate of knots.
Likewise, from a Fiji tap penalty he effectively "coached" Wales by asking Fiji to reset since Wales had moved from their line early. He should have allowed play to continue and then penalised them.
Totally bizarre refereeing performance and it must be very confusing for people watching who don't follow the game closely (especially as the ITV coverage is woeful)
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:29 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:22 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 pm
think the biggest issue that caused Fiji’s loss was knocking on in contact and a terrible few mins straight after halftime. Not that Carley covered himself in glory in the second half.
Losing their flyhalf to injury before the world cup was a massive blow. No high percentage kicker meant they were always kicking for the corner or opting for the scrum. Couldn't just keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Yep, big blow and not just for the kicking at posts. How many shots at the posts did Fiji turn down because of him? Lomani kicked after the first one until he went off - can’t find when that happened as the RWC app doesn’t seem to think it did.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:30 pm
by SixAndAHalf
These stats speak for themselves (p.s. is that a record number of tackles for any team in history?) and evidence the level of intervention needed for Wales to achieve a win.
At the best case it is bias based on a preconceived ideas and at worst it is more sinister...
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:31 pm
by Mellsblue
Farking hell. This is going full tinfoil hat!
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:29 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:22 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 pm
think the biggest issue that caused Fiji’s loss was knocking on in contact and a terrible few mins straight after halftime. Not that Carley covered himself in glory in the second half.
Losing their flyhalf to injury before the world cup was a massive blow. No high percentage kicker meant they were always kicking for the corner or opting for the scrum. Couldn't just keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Yep, big blow and not just for the kicking at posts. How many shots at the posts did Fiji turn down because of him? Lomani kicked after the first one until he went off - can’t find when that happened as the RWC app doesn’t seem to think it did.
Wales conceded thirteen penalties in their own half. Got to be a fair few in there that they could have slotted if they felt confident.
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:35 pm
by Mellsblue
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:29 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:22 pm
Losing their flyhalf to injury before the world cup was a massive blow. No high percentage kicker meant they were always kicking for the corner or opting for the scrum. Couldn't just keep the scoreboard ticking over.
Yep, big blow and not just for the kicking at posts. How many shots at the posts did Fiji turn down because of him? Lomani kicked after the first one until he went off - can’t find when that happened as the RWC app doesn’t seem to think it did.
Wales conceded thirteen penalties in their own half. Got to be a fair few in there that they could have slotted if they felt confident.
How many of those were when Fiji were two or three tries behind on the scoreboard?
Re: RWC refs
Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:40 pm
by FKAS
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:35 pm
FKAS wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:32 pm
Mellsblue wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:29 pm
Yep, big blow and not just for the kicking at posts. How many shots at the posts did Fiji turn down because of him? Lomani kicked after the first one until he went off - can’t find when that happened as the RWC app doesn’t seem to think it did.
Wales conceded thirteen penalties in their own half. Got to be a fair few in there that they could have slotted if they felt confident.
How many of those were when Fiji were two or three tries behind on the scoreboard?
No idea but comparably would have Wales chanced it quite so much if they thought Fiji had a reliable kicker who would knock three over every time they transgressed.