Brexit delayed

[Which Tyler]

Just in and tuning in?

Looks like Cash and Eustace don't like the result of the last vote, and want to kill the next one.

Fancy that, trying to overturn the result not a democratic vote is fine when it's them.

[Banquo]

another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.

So her majority is down to -1, -2 if a conservative doesn't win tomorrow's by-election

No they I think remain Tory mps. They’ve just resigned from govt

[Which Tyler]

another minister has quit. No doubt protecting his seat as it were. Not sure how he reconciles the sentences in his statement.

So her majority is down to -1, -2 if a conservative doesn't win tomorrow's by-election

No they I think remain Tory mps. They’ve just resigned from govt

Yup, looks that way

[Digby]

Hammond publicly backs a free vote for MPs. I wonder just how long the odds must be of him becoming the next Tory leader? You'd almost certainly be pissing £1 away at 1000000-1

[Sandydragon]

Just in and tuning in?

Looks like Cash and Eustace don't like the result of the last vote, and want to kill the next one.

Fancy that, trying to overturn the result not a democratic vote is fine when it's them.

Real shame that Cash and a few of the other dinosaurs weren't the front facing Brexiteers during the referendum campaign. There's a good reason why those lunatics were kept out of the spotlight.

[Digby]

The pro brexit Lords are (for now) taking one hell of a beating so far. They'd do better having another set of water pipes burst than continue to try and talk out the process

[Banquo]

The pro brexit Lords are (for now) taking one hell of a beating so far. They'd do better having another set of water pipes burst than continue to try and talk out the process

I'm quite impressed the commons was able to kick the can even further down the road in a lot less time than May.

[Digby]

They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

[Banquo]

They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

[Digby]

They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

I'm happy to make the decision myself

[Which Tyler]

[Banquo]

They should have moved the commons onto a series of preferential votes not discrete ones. There has to be a consequence presented to making and indeed not making a decision

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

I'm happy to make the decision myself

Such a narcissist

[Mellsblue]

Theresa’s latest love letter to Donald. Looks like the working process is to keep the WA as is, shouldn’t be too difficult as it’s closely aligned to Lab policy, and change the PD down a softer Brexit path.
The attachments aren’t quite in the right order. Read 1, 3 then 2!!

[fivepointer]

Weren't we supposed to hold all the cards.....

The EU will probably say, fine, you can an extension but we're not messing about by giving you a few weeks at a time, you can have a year to sort yourselves out.

That is eminently fair.

[Mellsblue]

Sticking points would seem to be Lab demands for a second ref- will Corbyn defy his party - and move in the PD towards remaining in the CU and close alignment to the SM - will May risk splitting her party.
If Labour play this right then they come out as winners. WA is cigarette paper close to their Brexit policy, that PD as outlined above removes the cigarette paper and a second ref would be the cherry on the top. That scenario, however, is a country mile from the Conservative manifesto.

From my point of view, it’s the worst compromise of the lot. Those who did vote to Leave as they hate furrinners get what the they want and the upsides - whether you think they are achievable or not - of trade deals, closing the democratic deficit etc go by the wayside.

[Mellsblue]

Weren't we supposed to hold all the cards.....

The EU will probably say, fine, you can an extension but we're not messing about by giving you a few weeks at a time, you can have a year to sort yourselves out.

That is eminently fair.

Good god. To we have to have the remainer supercilious quips all the time. It’s as bad as Brexiteers who try and invoke the blitz spirit at every given opportunity. I will be so utterly grateful when this is all over. Actually, scratch that, it’ll never be over. I can’t wait until it’s back on the low burner whilst actual stuff gets done.

I’d imagine the terms of the extension will depend who wins the argument. Merkel and Tusk seem happy to be pragmatic and get it done. Macron and all of Belgium see it differently. Why the EU would want us in the EU elections is beyond me. They should look at the 2014 results in what was a far less febrile atmosphere. Unless they are banking on UKIP and/or Farage not getting their act together or them sinking each other’s ships, I would’ve thought they’d be trying to avoid our inclusion if at all possible.

[Digby]

everyone wants it to be someone elses finger on whatever trigger is or isnt pulled

I'm happy to make the decision myself

Such a narcissist

This seemingly leaves you perturbed peope don't want to take responsibility and that someone would

[Mellsblue]

Really, really can’t wait for it to all be over:

[Puja]

Puja

[morepork]

These fucking idiots are beholden to their on line audience of zombies. Why in the name of barstarding wank is social media afforded this level of influence on public service?

[Mellsblue]

Puja

Brilliant!! Does anyone have enough time to go over the bollox Sturgeon has spouted about the London v Holyrood relationship?

[Digby]

Yes, but no inclination

[Banquo]

I'm happy to make the decision myself

Such a narcissist

This seemingly leaves you perturbed peope don't want to take responsibility and that someone would

No its how you try and bring threads to be all about you, like you could actually do anything about it

[Banquo]

Sticking points would seem to be Lab demands for a second ref- will Corbyn defy his party - and move in the PD towards remaining in the CU and close alignment to the SM - will May risk splitting her party.
If Labour play this right then they come out as winners. WA is cigarette paper close to their Brexit policy, that PD as outlined above removes the cigarette paper and a second ref would be the cherry on the top. That scenario, however, is a country mile from the Conservative manifesto.

From my point of view, it’s the worst compromise of the lot. Those who did vote to Leave as they hate furrinners get what the they want and the upsides - whether you think they are achievable or not - of trade deals, closing the democratic deficit etc go by the wayside.

I agree, WA plus Customs Union makes little sense. No upside to where we currently are. With a second ref its just crap tbh. I'd rather we just revoked and let the whining begin than that.

[Digby]

Such a narcissist

This seemingly leaves you perturbed peope don't want to take responsibility and that someone would

No its how you try and bring threads to be all about you, like you could actually do anything about it

So basically you judge me akin to the PM in all this?