RugbyRebels

Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:55 pm

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:19 pm I think vance is stinking the place out so far. Throwing out crazy statements etc

He's also pitching himself as the next don and there's only room for 1 messiah on the ticket, he's hoovering up fcuk all casual voters I'd say

I heard it proposed that Vance was picked because Trump was overconfident - rather than picking a strategically valuable VP of a sane(ish), equable, Christian who could reassure casuals that an adult was in the room (Mike Pence 2.0, if you will), he thought that he was guaranteed a victory against Biden and doubled down on MAGA lunacy. Makes sense to me.

Puja

Possible, think trump had to dodge abortion hardliners, approx 70% of Americans dont want a ban.

tweets from vance in 2016 asking if there was anyone in America trump hadn't sexually assaulted. Quite the gaffe from Don, and Marjorie who vetted vance

Going to say I underestimated kamala Harris. The money has flowed in 120M apparently

It's refreshing just seeing a relatively young, smiling vibrant woman talking, she's got a chance

Yeah I was not remotely a fan of hers last time around but given the situation it’s quite easy to get on board with this. Regardless of policies she really should be well suited to taking Trump apart in a debate.

She looked like she was trying to hold back snapping her fingers after delivering the “I’ve prosecuted predators, I’ve prosecuted corporate fraudsters etc” bit. This should be a walk in the park.

Shame that civil war will probably break out immediately if she wins really.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c28evrd9depo

I know man, I know.

Which Tyler wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 8:14 pm https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c28evrd9depo

Jesus H Fuck. How was he allowed to have a gun, let alone a badge with it? He genuinely thought that the miniscule chance that his intrusive thought that someone would randomly throw a pot of boiling water over him for no reason and with no provocation, was more important than a civilian's life.

That is why people say ACAB. It's not the case that every officer will randomly shoot innocents, but there are going to be dozens of officers who knew that guy was a paranoid loon with a worryingly low respect for life, but didn't want to cause trouble and wanted to respect the blue wall of silence. Moreover, the institution punishes those who whistleblow and reinforces camaraderie above ethics. There is no way to be a good US cop - at the very best, you are complicit.

Puja

Oh the gop is running scared, straight to the courts to try and block Harris using biden funds

Meanwhile there biggest attack on Harris is that she laughs a lot, I'm like isn't it great to hear her laugh, there's enough misery out there

Oul JD is tanking btw -6 negative impact for a vp pick the lowest since 1980, he'll probably get fired, lol

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am Oh the gop is running scared, straight to the courts to try and block Harris using biden funds

Meanwhile there biggest attack on Harris is that she laughs a lot, I'm like isn't it great to hear her laugh, there's enough misery out there

Oul JD is tanking btw -6 negative impact for a vp pick the lowest since 1980, he'll probably get fired, lol

Can he be fired? I thought once he was nominated and confirmed, he had to be on the ticket?

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:12 am

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am Oh the gop is running scared, straight to the courts to try and block Harris using biden funds

Meanwhile there biggest attack on Harris is that she laughs a lot, I'm like isn't it great to hear her laugh, there's enough misery out there

Oul JD is tanking btw -6 negative impact for a vp pick the lowest since 1980, he'll probably get fired, lol

Can he be fired? I thought once he was nominated and confirmed, he had to be on the ticket?

Puja

Presumably you're right

I thought the word was Vance/Thiel/Musk are all reconsidering their investment in Trump. I hope so because it’s looking pretty fucking gross at the moment.

Puja wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 4:29 pm

Sandydragon wrote: ↑Mon Jul 22, 2024 1:52 pmThe Michele Obama candidature is interesting. She has literally no experience at that level of government, but does have name recognition. Polling suggests that she would beat Trump, so it's not a surprise that her name continues to be floated. It would be an interesting twist.

The other week, I saw her name trending on twitter, wondered what it was and discovered a widespread conspiracy theory that she is trans, including AI photographs of her as teenage "Big Mikey" alongside a teenage Barack, analysis of her "manly features" (with comparisons to Melania and bonus racism), and dissections of pictures showing folds in her trousers that are "clearly a penis".

And you know, for a fact, that Trump would absolutely adopt that if she ran. That is 100%, perfectly, on brand for him.

I have absolutely no surprise that she has no interest in getting involved in politics.

Puja

Those pictures have been floating around for at least 4 years. Other things have surfaced as well.. clips of an Obama speech where he referred to Michelle as "Michael"... a few videos of Michelle appearing to be adjusting herself, that gay author (Larry Sinclair) that said he had sex and smoked crack with Obama when he was running for Senator... the letter Obama wrote to his college girlfriend stating he fantasizes about having sex with men... the time Biden let it slip that Obama took an HIV test... and other ridiculous things people think is "proof" Michelle is really a man/Obama is a homosexual man.

People hate him so much they will accept whatever affirms their beliefs without any curiosity about the validity or context.

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 7:47 pm Going to say I underestimated kamala Harris. The money has flowed in 120M apparently

It's refreshing just seeing a relatively young, smiling vibrant woman talking, she's got a chance

90+ million of that were withheld commitments in protest of Biden staying in the race by Future Forward super PAC. The super PAC had 122 million onhand end of June 2024, shes brought in about 50 million over and above what they were holding. ActBlue has brought some money in but last I looked it was about 15 million.

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am Oh the gop is running scared, straight to the courts to try and block Harris using biden funds

Meanwhile there biggest attack on Harris is that she laughs a lot, I'm like isn't it great to hear her laugh, there's enough misery out there

Oul JD is tanking btw -6 negative impact for a vp pick the lowest since 1980, he'll probably get fired, lol

Their biggest attacks on Kamala are yet to come.

Border crisis
Her record as AG in California

and more... there is a lot to work with.

Coco wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 11:37 am

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 9:04 am Oh the gop is running scared, straight to the courts to try and block Harris using biden funds

Meanwhile there biggest attack on Harris is that she laughs a lot, I'm like isn't it great to hear her laugh, there's enough misery out there

Oul JD is tanking btw -6 negative impact for a vp pick the lowest since 1980, he'll probably get fired, lol

Their biggest attacks on Kamala are yet to come.

Border crisis
Her record as AG in California

and more... there is a lot to work with.

A Republican Congressman has already introduced comedic articles of impeachment based on her being "the Border Czar" which is a) not a real job, b) was never her job. They're determined to try and sell the story of this, regardless of any facts in the matter.

I'm feeling relatively hopeful for once - there's a lot of anti-Trump sentiment that was being drowned out by people being being even more turned off by Biden's perceived senility, so a chunk of the polling was going for him as the lesser of two evils (as was the majority of Biden's polling tbf). With Biden gone, there's a lot of voters now in play and Kamala's weaknesses only have to be less weak than Trump's age/confusion, authoritarianism, felonies/ethical issues, and abortion weaknesses. And Trump is not good at reaching out to people outside of his own clan.

Puja

Will there be a debate?

J Dory wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:55 pm Will there be a debate?

Still up in the air - Trump is saying that he wants to honour the September slot he was scheduled to have with Biden, but who knows if that's anywhere even adjacent to the truth.

Harris should be pushing for as many debates as she can get, IMO. She wants every opportunity to get her name and face out there, get known to people and set out her brand, as well as having every opportunity to let Trump talk where casual voters can hear him.

Puja

Puja wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 3:55 pm

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 23, 2024 2:19 pm I think vance is stinking the place out so far. Throwing out crazy statements etc

He's also pitching himself as the next don and there's only room for 1 messiah on the ticket, he's hoovering up fcuk all casual voters I'd say

I heard it proposed that Vance was picked because Trump was overconfident - rather than picking a strategically valuable VP of a sane(ish), equable, Christian who could reassure casuals that an adult was in the room (Mike Pence 2.0, if you will), he thought that he was guaranteed a victory against Biden and doubled down on MAGA lunacy. Makes sense to me.

Puja

That seems to be the case. Vance certainly doesn’t balance the ticket

Puja wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 2:47 pm

J Dory wrote: ↑Wed Jul 24, 2024 1:55 pm Will there be a debate?

Still up in the air - Trump is saying that he wants to honour the September slot he was scheduled to have with Biden, but who knows if that's anywhere even adjacent to the truth.

Harris should be pushing for as many debates as she can get, IMO. She wants every opportunity to get her name and face out there, get known to people and set out her brand, as well as having every opportunity to let Trump talk where casual voters can hear him.

Puja

Totally agree. She isn’t the best debater, or wasn’t in the democratic nomination race last time out but she is sane and can make a coherent argument.

The more exposure she gets the better.

Anyone else think that the Kamala meme around her saying, "You didn't just fall out of a coconut tree" that's been going around, is a trap that's been deliberately planted to ensnare Trump? I cannot believe that his brain does not look at footage of a woman of colour saying that and doesn't think something racist and, given his complete lack of filter, it's only a matter of time before it comes out of his mouth. I wonder if it's a deliberate attempt to try and goad him into saying it in public?

Puja

Seen a lot of stuff (memes, t-shirts) linking Harris and blow jobs. Beyond the "men" of the American right proving themselves to be pathetic little boys, I've no idea where it's coming from, but it's horrible to see.

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am Seen a lot of stuff (memes, t-shirts) linking Harris and blow jobs. Beyond the "men" of the American right proving themselves to be pathetic little boys, I've no idea where it's coming from, but it's horrible to see.

Some Reps allege she performed a sex act on a man in a movie theatre how this is a thing I don't know

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:23 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am Seen a lot of stuff (memes, t-shirts) linking Harris and blow jobs. Beyond the "men" of the American right proving themselves to be pathetic little boys, I've no idea where it's coming from, but it's horrible to see.

Some Reps allege she performed a sex act on a man in a movie theatre how this is a thing I don't know

Quite a bit of that going on, which the Reps should be well aware of….

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am Seen a lot of stuff (memes, t-shirts) linking Harris and blow jobs. Beyond the "men" of the American right proving themselves to be pathetic little boys, I've no idea where it's coming from, but it's horrible to see.

It’s certainly nasty. I expect it to get worse. The only good thing that I can see is that it properly reveals the MAGA crowd in their full colours and might sway moderate republicans and floating voters.

paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:23 am

Donny osmond wrote: ↑Thu Jul 25, 2024 10:13 am Seen a lot of stuff (memes, t-shirts) linking Harris and blow jobs. Beyond the "men" of the American right proving themselves to be pathetic little boys, I've no idea where it's coming from, but it's horrible to see.

Some Reps allege she performed a sex act on a man in a movie theatre how this is a thing I don't know

Woman in "having sex" scandal!

Puja

I just watched a video about trump’s economic plans.

And…damn. They’re surprisingly a lot closer to what I would do than any politician I’ve seen for a while. I can see why it’s popular.

Only one major, glaring problem: the reduction in corporation tax.

But putting major tariffs on imports and reducing/eliminating income tax would be amazing.

That’s where we diverge, though, as I would put massive dividend tax on, plus raise corporation tax and exclude certain small business from that (plus funds a way to have a lower dividend tax on investments in small business)