RugbyRebels

Anyhow, Rowan, you don’t live in the region, so by your own logic you know feck all about this.

Jesus I see we're feckin still feeding the chimp. Does a russian attack on British soil not warrant its own thread?

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rowan wrote:Well, they're now saying it happened at a pub & restaurant. Having sampled the food at more than a few such establishments in Britain, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out there was no nerve agent at all, but instead just a particularly severe case of the nation's diabolical cuisine . . .

This highlights how little you actually know about this incident.

It was an Italian restaurant.

Sounds like being a little racist there, to be honest. The Pub was in Britain. Don't try to pin the blame on foreigners. You know what they call that kind of thinking

Maybe it was an authentic Italian pub.

morepork wrote:Maybe it was an authentic Italian pub.

Zizzi is a chain of 40 British restaurants offering dishes inspired by Italian cuisine across the United Kingdom. The chain was founded in 1999. It was sold by Gondola Group along with ASK Italian for £250 million to Bridgepoint Capital in February 2015. - Wiki

Gee, you guys really know your stuff

How about the Mill Pub? Who are you going to blame that one on?

Stop blaming foreigners.

You are quite literally totally humourless. I can't believe you took a break from wanking to lady boys to search the corporate history of a British Italian themed restaurant chain.

I think you just biff the racism theme to have the option of more pointless dialogue in the future, when the point has been well and truly lost in the sands of irony.

rowan wrote:

morepork wrote:Maybe it was an authentic Italian pub.

Zizzi is a chain of 40 British restaurants offering dishes inspired by Italian cuisine across the United Kingdom. The chain was founded in 1999. It was sold by Gondola Group along with ASK Italian for £250 million to Bridgepoint Capital in February 2015. - Wiki

Gee, you guys really know your stuff

How about the Mill Pub? Who are you going to blame that one on?

Stop blaming foreigners.

Bears all the hallmarks of a classic stitch-up, to be honest.

rowan wrote:Sounds like being a little racist there, to be honest. The Pub was in Britain. Don't try to pin the blame on foreigners. You know what they call that kind of thinking

You make me laugh. My response to your childish comments on British food was to point out that the restaurant serves Italian food, and this is somehow blaming foreigners for a chemical weapons attack.

Do you ever read what you write and get embarrassed by yourself?

Stones of granite wrote:

rowan wrote:Sounds like being a little racist there, to be honest. The Pub was in Britain. Don't try to pin the blame on foreigners. You know what they call that kind of thinking

You make me laugh. My response to your childish comments on British food was to point out that the restaurant serves Italian food, and this is somehow blaming foreigners for a chemical weapons attack.

Do you ever read what you write and get embarrassed by yourself?

Wow, & I'm the one whose being accuse of having no sense of humour

In fact, jokes about English cuisine abound, and there's a perfectly good reason for that, so don't be such a precious little cry baby.

You were blaming foreigners. You tried to make out a British-owned franchise was Italian, not British, and completely ignored the fact that the Mill Pub is also involved.

I clearly proved you wrong even as you were claiming I didn't know what I was talking about and that's why it is you who is embarrassed - & trying desperately to cover the fact.

As mentioned, this looks increasingly like a stitch-up to me, timed right before the Russian elections. & after all this nonsense about the Russians influencing the American elections, doesn't that look just a tad hypocritical

& guess what: local news sources are reporting that Syrian government forces have now located a chemical weapons depot in Eastern Ghouta that the US-backed terrorists had been using. Wonder if that's even going to make it into Western mainstream news . . .

Not when he did so explicitly to refute the comment about it being a restaurant in Britain, as anyone but a hapless idiot can see. Really clutching at straws now, aren't you.

cashead wrote:

rowan wrote:Not when he did so explicitly to refute the comment about it being a restaurant in Britain, as anyone but a hapless idiot can see. Really clutching at straws now, aren't you.

It's pretty obvious you were having a go at British cuisine, to which he pointed out it was an Italian restaurant. Like, are you actually forgetting what you wrote?

Like, seriously. All you're proving right now is that you're out of your fucking mind.

It's a British franchise and the pub is in Britain. Stop blaming foreigners. You know what they call that, don't you

But it takes a big man to admit it when he's wrong, not a hapless infant with a massive chip on his shoulder...

Meanwhile, interesting read on rampant Russophobia: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/t ... nt-w517486

My eldest son is possibly the world's worst cook and would put the Borgias to shame. Even he would struggle to cook up a pot full of Sarin from the contents of the pantry. In terms of rabbit holes, this one is pretty spectacular.

cashead wrote:

rowan wrote:

cashead wrote: It's pretty obvious you were having a go at British cuisine, to which he pointed out it was an Italian restaurant. Like, are you actually forgetting what you wrote?

Like, seriously. All you're proving right now is that you're out of your fucking mind.

It's a British franchise and the pub is in Britain. Stop blaming foreigners. You know what they call that, don't you

But it takes a big man to admit it when he's wrong, not a hapless infant with a massive chip on his shoulder...

Meanwhile, interesting read on rampant Russophobia: https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/t ... nt-w517486

Holy shit, he wasn't talking about the ownership of the place, you stupid dumb fucking idiot.

Sometimes Hapless reminds me of a fly after it's just been sprayed, spinning wildly, making lots of noise . . .

Craig Murray's view:

The same people who assured you that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s now assure you Russian “novochok” nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil. As with the Iraqi WMD dossier, it is essential to comb the evidence very finely. A vital missing word from Theresa May’s statement yesterday was “only”. She did not state that the nerve agent used was manufactured ONLY by Russia. She rather stated this group of nerve agents had been “developed by” Russia. Antibiotics were first developed by a Scotsman, but that is not evidence that all antibiotics are today administered by Scots.

Continues here: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... judgement/

"The use of a Novichok in the attack on the Skripals makes it highly likely that Russia was involved, because no one else knows how to make them, says John Lamb at Birmingham City University, UK. “The Novichok family was specifically created by Russia to be unknown in the West and as such it’ll be one of their most tightly guarded secrets,” he says.

Full article here -

https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... sia-do-it/

My mind is made up.

Rowan is a total legume. That Italian restaurant sidetrack was some of your best work yet, my little vegetable.

fivepointer wrote:"The use of a Novichok in the attack on the Skripals makes it highly likely that Russia was involved, because no one else knows how to make them, says John Lamb at Birmingham City University, UK. “The Novichok family was specifically created by Russia to be unknown in the West and as such it’ll be one of their most tightly guarded secrets,” he says.

Full article here -

https://www.newscientist.com/article/21 ... sia-do-it/

acetylcholinesterase Inhibitors are the only prescribed course of treatment available for Alzheimer’s. True story

morepork wrote:

That Italian restaurant sidetrack was some of your best work yet, my little vegetable.

Except that I wasn't the one blaming foreigners when it was a British franchise involved....

I was the one proving you all wrong about it. Doh!

acetylcholinesterase Inhibitors are the only prescribed course of treatment available for Alzheimer’s. True story


Here you go, educate yourself, and see how a former British Ambassador completely destroys this transparent Russophobic propaganda . . .

rowan wrote:Craig Murray's view:

The same people who assured you that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s now assure you Russian “novochok” nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil. As with the Iraqi WMD dossier, it is essential to comb the evidence very finely. A vital missing word from Theresa May’s statement yesterday was “only”. She did not state that the nerve agent used was manufactured ONLY by Russia. She rather stated this group of nerve agents had been “developed by” Russia. Antibiotics were first developed by a Scotsman, but that is not evidence that all antibiotics are today administered by Scots.

Continues here: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... judgement/

rowan wrote:

morepork wrote:

That Italian restaurant sidetrack was some of your best work yet, my little vegetable.

Except that I wasn't the one blaming foreigners when it was a British franchise involved....

I was the one proving you all wrong about it. Doh!

acetylcholinesterase Inhibitors are the only prescribed course of treatment available for Alzheimer’s. True story




Here you go, educate yourself, and see how a former British Ambassador completely destroys this transparent Russophobic propaganda . . .

rowan wrote:Craig Murray's view:

The same people who assured you that Saddam Hussein had WMD’s now assure you Russian “novochok” nerve agents are being wielded by Vladimir Putin to attack people on British soil. As with the Iraqi WMD dossier, it is essential to comb the evidence very finely. A vital missing word from Theresa May’s statement yesterday was “only”. She did not state that the nerve agent used was manufactured ONLY by Russia. She rather stated this group of nerve agents had been “developed by” Russia. Antibiotics were first developed by a Scotsman, but that is not evidence that all antibiotics are today administered by Scots.

Continues here: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives ... judgement/

What has that to do with the pharmacological targeted of dysfunctional cholinergic networks in the major age related dementia burden in the general population? Is it Italian food? You should ask one of the residents in your home. Maybe they could flick you some galantamine.

The Russia thing is just a ruse...it was obviously the Italians!

Joking aside, if it looks like a Russian duck, swims like a Russian duck, quacks like a Russian duck and murders a bunch of its fellow Russian ducks...

It's probably a Russian duck they're looking for.

What I don't get is why May delivers a midnight ultimatum to Russia. What is the point?

Does she think Putin is going to apologize, or offer to look into it?

Is she just posturing for effect?

Either way, the effort is going to seem pretty ineffective. The deadline passes and Russia says "WTF are you on about. Prove it, then come talk to me".

The deadline has passed, Russia don't give a fuck so, now what?

Another 48 hours? (Murphy and Nolte)

Harsh words?

Sanctions?

I mean, really, you'd have to be a Russophobic idiot to believe this, as much as you would've had to have been an Islamophobic idiot to have believed the lies that preceded America's invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya & Syria:

One person who worked with Sergei Skripal in Russia's foreign spy agency when the double agent was based in Moscow is retired colonel Vladimir Koshelev .

Speaking to Euronews, he dismissed the idea that the Kremlin could have been involved in the Salisbury attack.

''We should not to exclude the possibility of another state's participation but which state, that's the big question. Possibly Britain's secret services decided to make use of their former spy, on the other hand it's also possible that, what we might call, a "friendly" secret service took part in this. This is just one possible scenario. I'd like to point out, why not another country which used to be part of the Soviet Union, where there are warehouses with these types of weapons, for instance Ukraine"

Story continues here: http://www.euronews.com/2018/03/13/-why ... n-britain-

rowan wrote:I mean, really, you'd have to be a Russophobic idiot to believe this, as much as you would've had to have been an Islamophobic idiot to have believed the lies that preceded America's invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya & Syria:

One person who worked with Sergei Skripal in Russia's foreign spy agency when the double agent was based in Moscow is retired colonel Vladimir Koshelev .

Speaking to Euronews, he dismissed the idea that the Kremlin could have been involved in the Salisbury attack.

''We should not to exclude the possibility of another state's participation but which state, that's the big question. Possibly Britain's secret services decided to make use of their former spy, on the other hand it's also possible that, what we might call, a "friendly" secret service took part in this. This is just one possible scenario. I'd like to point out, why not another country which used to be part of the Soviet Union, where there are warehouses with these types of weapons, for instance Ukraine"

Story continues here: http://www.euronews.com/2018/03/13/-why ... n-britain-

So, let’s get this straight. We are being asked to believe that a ruler, who is a former KGB agent and who has form in having political opponents murdered (e.g. Boris Nemtsov), and who has openly stated that Russian traitors will be killed, has had no involvement in this, and instead, the British Secret Service has stolen highly secret Russian nerve agent and smuggled it into the UK to carry out a false flag attack.

Right.

Stones of granite wrote:

rowan wrote:I mean, really, you'd have to be a Russophobic idiot to believe this, as much as you would've had to have been an Islamophobic idiot to have believed the lies that preceded America's invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya & Syria:

One person who worked with Sergei Skripal in Russia's foreign spy agency when the double agent was based in Moscow is retired colonel Vladimir Koshelev .

Speaking to Euronews, he dismissed the idea that the Kremlin could have been involved in the Salisbury attack.

''We should not to exclude the possibility of another state's participation but which state, that's the big question. Possibly Britain's secret services decided to make use of their former spy, on the other hand it's also possible that, what we might call, a "friendly" secret service took part in this. This is just one possible scenario. I'd like to point out, why not another country which used to be part of the Soviet Union, where there are warehouses with these types of weapons, for instance Ukraine"

Story continues here: http://www.euronews.com/2018/03/13/-why ... n-britain-

So, let’s get this straight. We are being asked to believe that a ruler, who is a former KGB agent and who has form in having political opponents murdered (e.g. Boris Nemtsov), and who has openly stated that Russian traitors will be killed, has had no involvement in this, and instead, the British Secret Service has stolen highly secret Russian nerve agent and smuggled it into the UK to carry out a false flag attack.

Right.

So we are being asked to believe that Britain, the most warmongering, racist, duplicitous nation in history, which even today is involved in genocidal wars on countries across the Middle East, while supporting a vicious dictatorship in Saudi Arabia and Apartheid in Israel (having basically created those twin evils itself), could not have possibly staged the entire thing which occurred in Britain; and that Vladimir Putin has decided to poison a double agent, whom he personally pardoned and released, for no reason at all, and to do so right on the eve of the Russian elections and a couple of months out from the FIFA World Cup in Russia? & of course he personally rigged the American elections and bombed lots of babies in Syria for fun as well (while preventing NATO from taking it over and installing another puppet government subservient to its whims). Yes, if you are a Russophobic idiot, you might believe all that.