Brexit delayed

[Which Tyler]

It's official - extension until June 30th requested (and likely to be rejected)

She wants it in order to bring her deal (yeah, yeah, working agreement) to parliament again (which may well be refused a vote on, and is unlikely to pass even if it is)

Is she actually capable of acutally listening?

Doesn't help that she's always seemed a Brexiteer in all but name (much like Corbyn)

[Digby]

It's official - extension until June 30th requested (and likely to be rejected)

She wants it in order to bring her deal (yeah, yeah, working agreement) to parliament again (which may well be refused a vote on, and is unlikely to pass even if it is)

Is she actually capable of acutally listening?

Doesn't help that she's always seemed a Brexiteer in all but name (much like Corbyn)

Yesterday she wanted a longer extension but faced threats from the stronger leavers in cabinet, today we'd have to concede she listened to those same lunatics. So she can listen

I was hoping at some point the remainers doing their best to support the government would tire of pandering to the loons and withdraw their support for May. But they're leaving any such measures dangerously late in proceedings assuming they've any gumption to begin with

[Digby]

It's genuinely a weird thought that it's the Conservative party who've given up on being conservative and are only days away from removing thousands of laws and kicking off a giant bun fight not just with the national economy but with the nation

And they barely seem fussed or to vaguely think anyone should be telling us what's going on

The only things we know are when May said we're leaving on the 29th she cannot possibly have meant it, and when she said no deal was better than a bad deal she cannot possibly have meant it, and now she repeats ad nauseum hers is the only deal on the table nobody wants it nor believes her

[Digby]

EU says it's May's deal or no deal. You can't I suppose say it lacks drama

[Which Tyler]

What time is her 8.15 announcement due?

[Which Tyler]

Well, that was worth waiting for.

Nothing she didn't say this morning in parliament.

[Puja]

Jesus Christ. Corbyn walked out of a meeting between May and opposition leaders because Chukka Umunna was added to the guest list. Not that the meeting would've achieved anything anyway, but surely he must have someone to advise him on the optics of doing stupid things.

Puja

[Which Tyler]

Jesus Christ. Corbyn walked out of a meeting between May and opposition leaders because Chukka Umunna was added to the guest list. Not that the meeting would've achieved anything anyway, but surely he must have someone to advise him on the optics of doing stupid things.

Puja

Willing to negotiate with Hammas, or Sinn Fein but Chukka Umunna is a step too far!
ETA: ok, apparently that was Cable spinning it against Corbyn, he walked when it was apparent that May was o lyninterested in telling other people what to do, rather than actually listening - so consistent with his previous stance when she acted that same way. And I can't disagree with him if that's the case (still terrible optics, andnhe needed to get his interpretation out there BEFORE anyone else) May has shown time and time again that she is incapable of listening, obtaining a consensus, or even negotiating in good faith.
ETA2: and the inevitable counter-claims that that was the case, but that Corbyn left before it could have been known...


I don't remember seeing a faster petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/241584
369k has got to be the target (current total for the pro No Deal petition started 5 months ago)

[Puja]

Jesus Christ. Corbyn walked out of a meeting between May and opposition leaders because Chukka Umunna was added to the guest list. Not that the meeting would've achieved anything anyway, but surely he must have someone to advise him on the optics of doing stupid things.

Puja

Willing to negotiate with Hammas, or Sinn Fein but Chukka Umunna is a step too far!

Can't disagree with that, regardless of circumstances.

Puja

[Which Tyler]

In less than 24 hours, the revoke petition has overtaken 5 months worth of No Deal petition

[Which Tyler]

10.25am 20/02/19 petition opened.
8.00 pm 20/03/19 80,000 signatures.
8.35 pm 20/03/19 May makes her speech blaming everyone who isn't her, whilst claiming to be on the side of people she refuses to listen to.
6.00 am 21/03/19 passes 370,000 signatures the "Leave without a deal" petition has after 5 months.
8.40 am 21/03/19 passes 583,000 signatures to become www.petition.parliament.uk 's most signed petition.
9.00 am 21/03/19 site crashes with approximately 620,000 signatures
10.00am 21/03/19 site back up; almost immediately up to 690,000 (guess there were a lot waiting for the email confirmation)


Tewkesbury up over 1,000 (wish I'd waited to link my MP), it was bang-on 900 when I screen-shot it. for comparison, we had 678 signatures on the No Deal petition (yet voted Leave by 53.2%)

I guess the next target is 742,000 - which would double the No Deal petition.

[Stom]

10.25am 20/02/19 petition opened.
8.00 pm 20/03/19 80,000 signatures.
8.35 pm 20/03/19 May makes her speech blaming everyone who isn't her, whilst claiming to be on the side of people she refuses to listen to.
6.00 am 21/03/19 passes 370,000 signatures the "Leave without a deal" petition has after 5 months.
8.40 am 21/03/19 passes 583,000 signatures to become http://www.petition.parliament.uk 's most signed petition.
9.00 am 21/03/19 site crashes with approximately 620,000 signatures
10.00am 21/03/19 site back up; almost immediately up to 690,000 (guess there were a lot waiting for the email confirmation)


Tewkesbury up over 1,000 (wish I'd waited to link my MP), it was bang-on 900 when I screen-shot it. for comparison, we had 678 signatures on the No Deal petition (yet voted Leave by 53.2%)

I guess the next target is 742,000 - which would double the No Deal petition.

Yeah, I can't sign it yet...crashing too often

The Petition Map is also not loading.

[Which Tyler]

Yeah, I can't sign it yet...crashing too often

The Petition Map is also not loading.

Can still share the link, and write to MP though

[Mellsblue]

10.25am 20/02/19 petition opened.
8.00 pm 20/03/19 80,000 signatures.
8.35 pm 20/03/19 May makes her speech blaming everyone who isn't her, whilst claiming to be on the side of people she refuses to listen to.
6.00 am 21/03/19 passes 370,000 signatures the "Leave without a deal" petition has after 5 months.
8.40 am 21/03/19 passes 583,000 signatures to become http://www.petition.parliament.uk 's most signed petition.
9.00 am 21/03/19 site crashes with approximately 620,000 signatures
10.00am 21/03/19 site back up; almost immediately up to 690,000 (guess there were a lot waiting for the email confirmation)


Tewkesbury up over 1,000 (wish I'd waited to link my MP), it was bang-on 900 when I screen-shot it. for comparison, we had 678 signatures on the No Deal petition (yet voted Leave by 53.2%)

I guess the next target is 742,000 - which would double the No Deal petition.

So, just over 1% of the population have signed it. I think all it proves is that People’s Vote is well organised (outside of parliament). Ironically, by Alaistair Campbell, the scourge of any good liberal until approx 3 years ago.

[Stom]

Up to 764k now...

[Which Tyler]

Nothing "Arranged" about it - nor anything to do with Alistair Campbell.
It's just an online petition; albeit one hosted by the government and one that requires addressing in parliament.
It's also comfortably the biggest petition since the hosting site was set up; and absolutely thrashing the rival No Deal petition.
We're talking some serious numbers now, maybe even enough to get 1-2 MPs to consider their position; especially if the local figures show something interesting to them.

[Digby]

I can only hope everyone is busy contacting their local MP to let them know their thoughts in addition to signing the petition

[Digby]

Up to 764k now...

It'd be much higher if the site didn’t keep crashing

[Banquo]

I can only hope everyone is busy contacting their local MP to let them know their thoughts in addition to signing the petition

The 'responder' density map is hardly surprising. Mind, not as dense as the leave vote.

[Stom]

Up to 764k now...

It'd be much higher if the site didn’t keep crashing

Would be quite hilarious if it managed millions and millions of signatories...What would the government do I wonder. You don't suppose they'd ignore it would they? I mean, it is the will of the people...

[Digby]

Up to 764k now...

It'd be much higher if the site didn’t keep crashing

Would be quite hilarious if it managed millions and millions of signatories...What would the government do I wonder. You don't suppose they'd ignore it would they? I mean, it is the will of the people...

Probably note it's only indicative and it doesn't hold close to the same validity as a Russian backed advisory outcome

[Digby]

I can only hope everyone is busy contacting their local MP to let them know their thoughts in addition to signing the petition

The 'responder' density map is hardly surprising. Mind, not as dense as the leave vote.

We may yet be wrong and the outcome nothing but unicorns, but as has been noted it looks rather more like a donkey with a dildo strapped to its head

[Banquo]

I can only hope everyone is busy contacting their local MP to let them know their thoughts in addition to signing the petition

The 'responder' density map is hardly surprising. Mind, not as dense as the leave vote.

We may yet be wrong and the outcome nothing but unicorns, but as has been noted it looks rather more like a donkey with a dildo strapped to its head

also known as a "Farrell"

[Sandydragon]

Nothing "Arranged" about it - nor anything to do with Alistair Campbell.
It's just an online petition; albeit one hosted by the government and one that requires addressing in parliament.
It's also comfortably the biggest petition since the hosting site was set up; and absolutely thrashing the rival No Deal petition.
We're talking some serious numbers now, maybe even enough to get 1-2 MPs to consider their position; especially if the local figures show something interesting to them.

Comfortably
Past the one million count now, I tried to sign it and am still waiting for the email confirmation.

This really needs some more publicity, time is short but if a sizeable number of people can sign this it might influence some MPs.

[Banquo]

Nothing "Arranged" about it - nor anything to do with Alistair Campbell.
It's just an online petition; albeit one hosted by the government and one that requires addressing in parliament.
It's also comfortably the biggest petition since the hosting site was set up; and absolutely thrashing the rival No Deal petition.
We're talking some serious numbers now, maybe even enough to get 1-2 MPs to consider their position; especially if the local figures show something interesting to them.

Comfortably
Past the one million count now, I tried to sign it and am still waiting for the email confirmation.

This really needs some more publicity, time is short but if a sizeable number of people can sign this it might influence some MPs.

to do what, though? Do you really think parliament will vote to revoke A50 after all this time, especially as they overwhelmingly voted to trigger it in the first place.

Not sure it can get more publicity and it looks like the fastest growing petition of its sort ever.