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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Good win, good start. Hugh Dan getting excited!
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So this the only time we will be playing Cardiff this season (bar final 1/4)?

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Hmm.. Not too bad really, a fair few points left untaken, though always nice to beat Cardiff in Welsh Wales..
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Just watched the game and reckon you lot are being pretty miserable. Last season we would have lost that by 20 with the amount of possession that Cardiff had. The game plan hasn't changed much but it's being done fairly well now.

Ritchie motm for me. Was it four major turnovers in the end? He's looking very comfortable at this level now and reminds me a bit of Kelly Brown when he was playing six for Glasgow.

Backs still a bit uninspiring in attack. The game plan seems to be give it to Kinghorn and hope that he does something with it. Common denominator there is Hodge I reckon. Still two decent tries and only a couple of chances gone begging so can't criticize too much.
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switchskier wrote:Just watched the game and reckon you lot are being pretty miserable. Last season we would have lost that by 20 with the amount of possession that Cardiff had. The game plan hasn't changed much but it's being done fairly well now.

Ritchie motm for me. Was it four major turnovers in the end? He's looking very comfortable at this level now and reminds me a bit of Kelly Brown when he was playing six for Glasgow.

Backs still a bit uninspiring in attack. The game plan seems to be give it to Kinghorn and hope that he does something with it. Common denominator there is Hodge I reckon. Still two decent tries and only a couple of chances gone begging so can't criticize too much.
Backs look uninspiring because with the injuries the quality just isn't there. Exception is Kinghorn - great to see him with his mojo back. He'll play some Test rugby in the future.

Nice start Embra. I had that down as a nailed on Cardiff win.
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switchskier wrote:Just watched the game and reckon you lot are being pretty miserable. Last season we would have lost that by 20 with the amount of possession that Cardiff had. The game plan hasn't changed much but it's being done fairly well now.

Ritchie motm for me. Was it four major turnovers in the end? He's looking very comfortable at this level now and reminds me a bit of Kelly Brown when he was playing six for Glasgow.

Backs still a bit uninspiring in attack. The game plan seems to be give it to Kinghorn and hope that he does something with it. Common denominator there is Hodge I reckon. Still two decent tries and only a couple of chances gone begging so can't criticize too much.
Agreed. Happy with an away win in Cardiff. Think McRae deserves a mention, the defence was much better for the majority of the match.
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We were awful. Edinburgh and Cokers got their tactics spot on. Peppering our poor 15 with high balls he did not want to take, and a lack of ideas with the possession we had combined with good defence from the gunners and a fairly easy win. I think you'll be much improved as the season goes on. Good luck!
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OptimisticJock wrote:If anyone wants to suggest new names I will change them.

The Renniesance Era Year 1.

Or similar.

Took me a while to steal that from somewhere.
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That's winning for me so far.
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Team to face Gav's Dragons:

Kinghorn, Hoyland, Dean, Fruean, Harries, Weir, SHC
Rizzo, McInally, Nel, Toolis, Gilchrist, Ritchie, Watson, Bradbury

Subs Marfo, Ford, Berghan, MacKenzie, du Preez, Fowles, Tovey, Rasolea
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Are Dean and Fruean not the wrong way around? Nice to see Hoyland back and I'll give it another couple of games before referring to Harries as a coaches favorite.

Dragons team. Beard always plays brilliantly against us and they outnumber us two lions to none.

15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Ashton Hewitt, 13 Tyler Morgan 12, Sam Beard, 11 Hallam Amos, 10 Gavin Henson, 9 Charlie Davies; 1 Brok Harris, 2 Elliot Dee, 3 Leon Brown, 4 Rynard Landman, 5 Cory Hill ©, 6 James Thomas, 7 James Benjamin, 8 Harrison Keddie.

Replacements: Rhys Buckley, Phil Price, Lloyd Fairbrother, Matthew Screech, Max Williams, Owain Leonard, Angus O’Brien, Adam Hughes.
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I've only heard of about 3 of those Dragons players.

Any thoughts of Bradburg at 8 rather than 6? Is it just that Ritchie deserves a spot more than Du Preez?
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8 probably suits him better in the long term. It helps that Ritchie was very good last week too right enough.
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switchskier wrote:Are Dean and Fruean not the wrong way around?
I don't think so - it will be good to have Fruean outside Duncy to perhaps encourage him and the others to get up near the gain line. Looking forward to seeing him play this season if he stays fit.
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General Zod wrote:
switchskier wrote:Are Dean and Fruean not the wrong way around?
I don't think so - it will be good to have Fruean outside Duncy to perhaps encourage him and the others to get up near the gain line. Looking forward to seeing him play this season if he stays fit.
Yeah, Dean and Fruean as a pair would seem suited the other way around but Bennett will return at some point this year and I assume the preferred centres will be Fruean at 12 and Bennett at 13.
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Big D wrote:
General Zod wrote:
switchskier wrote:Are Dean and Fruean not the wrong way around?
I don't think so - it will be good to have Fruean outside Duncy to perhaps encourage him and the others to get up near the gain line. Looking forward to seeing him play this season if he stays fit.
Yeah, Dean and Fruean as a pair would seem suited the other way around but Bennett will return at some point this year and I assume the preferred centres will be Fruean at 12 and Bennett at 13.
Fine but by that logic we may as well play Dean at 12 as Fruean will be off to play sevens later in the season and I don't see Bennett at inside center.
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switchskier wrote:
Big D wrote:
General Zod wrote:
I don't think so - it will be good to have Fruean outside Duncy to perhaps encourage him and the others to get up near the gain line. Looking forward to seeing him play this season if he stays fit.
Yeah, Dean and Fruean as a pair would seem suited the other way around but Bennett will return at some point this year and I assume the preferred centres will be Fruean at 12 and Bennett at 13.
Fine but by that logic we may as well play Dean at 12 as Fruean will be off to play sevens later in the season and I don't see Bennett at inside center.
I genuinely don't recall it being mentioned for a while. Has it been confirmed he definitely is playing 7s, and if it has what tournaments/commitments will be?

Have Somoa said he needs to fully commit to the 7s programme? Or are they happy to drop him in for a week here and there as this is a move to help their 15s.

There are at least 3 tournaments at a quick check on weekends Edinburgh aren't playing.

If be surprised if Edinburgh have just agreed to a free pass for him to go whenever Samoa want. It will be carefully planned out if it happens.
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switchskier wrote:Are Dean and Fruean not the wrong way around? Nice to see Hoyland back and I'll give it another couple of games before referring to Harries as a coaches favorite.

Dragons team. Beard always plays brilliantly against us and they outnumber us two lions to none.

15 Zane Kirchner, 14 Ashton Hewitt, 13 Tyler Morgan 12, Sam Beard, 11 Hallam Amos, 10 Gavin Henson, 9 Charlie Davies; 1 Brok Harris, 2 Elliot Dee, 3 Leon Brown, 4 Rynard Landman, 5 Cory Hill ©, 6 James Thomas, 7 James Benjamin, 8 Harrison Keddie.

Replacements: Rhys Buckley, Phil Price, Lloyd Fairbrother, Matthew Screech, Max Williams, Owain Leonard, Angus O’Brien, Adam Hughes.
Holding a few tackle bags doesn't really qualify you as a Lion.
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This ref is very disruptive. Don't think Edinburgh are that undisciplined but what do I know.
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Banging try. Ritchie and Bradbury force a turnover on one end of the pitch just outside the 22. They go right, carry up by Watson then Weir releases Dean into a huge gap and he pops to Kinghorn who still has a bit to do but he's over the line :)
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Edinburgh putting Drags under a world of pressure so they try to kill the ball. Wee fat dunc gets carded for trying to clear them out. Interesting interpretation.
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Says he used his boot in the ruck (ultimate rugby app).

Edinburgh did well in defence there. HT 13-9

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Blair Kinghorn is definitely ready to be Hogg's back up. What a line, what a draw and what a f*cking pass to SHC to score under the posts!
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Adder wrote:Says he used his boot in the ruck (ultimate rugby app).

Edinburgh did well in defence there. HT 13-9

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He did use his boot and it was blatant but it really wasn't malicious. It's definitely a pen/YC but some refs would let it go when the ball killing is so f*cking blatant. He was rucking him as opposed to stamping IMO.
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Try for SHC after a nice line break fron Kinghorn. Raolea has been at the end of a few poor passrs since coming on.

Embra feck up straight away at the following kick off

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