BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
The more accurate the accusations, the more May starts to fluff her lines.
He was going after her over the triple-lock on pensions today and the atmosphere in the House changed instantly. Up to that moment it had been lots of fun on the Tory benches.....that evaporated quickly.
IDS is such a prick. Seeing him and Jeremy Cunt sitting on the benches should turn the stomach of any free thinker.
BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
The job of opposition MPs is to call the Government to account. Of course, you can always diminish this role by saying that all they do is "make accusations".
And then you can accuse them of running a "one-party state" purely because they got more MPs elected in Scotland than anyone else.
What is it you actually want? More yes-men to support the Tories?
I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Digby wrote:I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Given that the Grey lobby are almost as powerful/more powerful than the business lobby she's got plenty to be frightened about. If Robertson is correct, and the reaction from the Tory benches suggest he is on the money, then Tory plans to scrap the triple-lock could be big trouble.
May has everything to lose by a TV debate. She doesn't have to do it and wont as frankly she isn't up to much. Her PMQs efforts are pretty woeful and give you an idea of just how wooden she would be in a live tv debate.
we should be grateful. How many times can we hear about her "strong and stable" leadership before hurling something at the set, or simply giving up on the will to live.
Digby wrote:I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Well, either it's a UK election or it isn't. If you start marginalising MPs, representing UK constituencies that happen to be outside of England, what does that say about scope of the election?
Digby wrote:I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Well, either it's a UK election or it isn't. If you start marginalising MPs, representing UK constituencies that happen to be outside of England, what does that say about scope of the election?
It says that English rightwing MP's think they have a God-given right to gerrymander the kingdom. Which is nothing new.
It's disgusting,....but nothing new.
It's sickening to watch all of those country bumpkins with a public school education pretending they actually care about the political future of the nation.
BBD wrote:I think Sturgeon has over played her hand in the last few weeks and will suffer at the election because of it.
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
kk67 wrote:
I've been blydi impressed by Angus Robertson in the last few months. He, more than any of the other leaders, has the oratory skills to rip May a new one and she is clearly terrified of him.
I suspect her refusal to do the tv debates is mostly down to trying to avoid him.
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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I'm so intellectually lazy that my disdain for the SNP means I'm automatically a Tory yes man.
OptimisticJock wrote:
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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I'm so intellectually lazy that my disdain for the SNP means I'm automatically a Tory yes man.
Wrong man. -->UKIP
Edit: it's a joke
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OptimisticJock wrote:
It's really easy when all you have to do is make accusations.
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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I'm so intellectually lazy that my disdain for the SNP means I'm automatically a Tory yes man.
I feel your pain bruv but I is too fick to no wot to do
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It was so much easier to blame Them. It was bleakly depressing to think They were Us. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.
Digby wrote:I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Well, either it's a UK election or it isn't. If you start marginalising MPs, representing UK constituencies that happen to be outside of England, what does that say about scope of the election?
That most of the country doesn't care.
Actually I don't mind if they have the same expanded group on stage, I just only want to watch one with 3 party leaders. If however the SNP want to put up candidates in every constituency in the UK then I'd revise my stance.
Donny osmond wrote:
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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I'm so intellectually lazy that my disdain for the SNP means I'm automatically a Tory yes man.
I feel your pain bruv but I is too fick to no wot to do
Donny osmond wrote:
Here, Baz, me and you are too intellectually lazy, bordering on being plain stupid, to make statements like this. Know your place, son. [emoji85] [emoji86] [emoji87]
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I'm so intellectually lazy that my disdain for the SNP means I'm automatically a Tory yes man.
I feel your pain bruv but I is too fick to no wot to do.
Digby wrote:I can't frankly see the point of a TV debate which features the SNP party, or a good few others. The last debate featured far too many people, and it'd be more useful to have the Conservatives, Labour and Lib Dems in a national debate, and then separate debates to feature the various national parties for those nations for anyone who wants it
I also can't see why May would be concerned about Angus Vs she has nothing to gain from a debate, a few jibes she's chicken will hurt a lot less than tripping up badly in a debate.
Well, either it's a UK election or it isn't. If you start marginalising MPs, representing UK constituencies that happen to be outside of England, what does that say about scope of the election?
That most of the country doesn't care.
Actually I don't mind if they have the same expanded group on stage, I just only want to watch one with 3 party leaders. If however the SNP want to put up candidates in every constituency in the UK then I'd revise my stance.
Pretty much this. Let's have an SNP manifesto with their plans for the UK as a whole and let them put up candidates across the country and then I'd happily have them in the leaders debates. Not that I want debates in the first place.
Stones of granite wrote:
Well, either it's a UK election or it isn't. If you start marginalising MPs, representing UK constituencies that happen to be outside of England, what does that say about scope of the election?
That most of the country doesn't care.
Actually I don't mind if they have the same expanded group on stage, I just only want to watch one with 3 party leaders. If however the SNP want to put up candidates in every constituency in the UK then I'd revise my stance.
Pretty much this. Let's have an SNP manifesto with their plans for the UK as a whole and let them put up candidates across the country and then I'd happily have them in the leaders debates. Not that I want debates in the first place.
Fair enough. Don't be surprised, then, if the SNP response is that they are being shut out of what is supposed to be a UK election.
Digby wrote:
That most of the country doesn't care.
Actually I don't mind if they have the same expanded group on stage, I just only want to watch one with 3 party leaders. If however the SNP want to put up candidates in every constituency in the UK then I'd revise my stance.
Pretty much this. Let's have an SNP manifesto with their plans for the UK as a whole and let them put up candidates across the country and then I'd happily have them in the leaders debates. Not that I want debates in the first place.
Fair enough. Don't be surprised, then, if the SNP response is that they are being shut out of what is supposed to be a UK election.
UK election is the key. Are they a UK wide party? It's not an anti-SNP stance for me. I say the same about Plaid Cymru, the DUP etc and I'd say the same if a South West Nationalist Party or Yorkshire Independence Party sent MP's to Westminster but had no UK wide platform.
In a nutshell, if you don't field enough candidates to form a majority government then why should you be invited to a leaders debate.
looks like the SNP fluffers are out in force today.
