Harry Potter - the TV series

[cashead]

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When I said you’re threadbanned, I meant it. Do not let me catch you posting in this thread again.

[Mikey Brown]

On a slow afternoon I read that "Francesca Gardiner has been tapped as the writer and executive producer of the Harry Potter reboot. Her previous production credits include Succession and Killing Eve. As a writer, she's credited for His Dark Materials, The Man in the High Castle, and more. Mark Mylod (Entourage, Game of Thrones, Shameless) will be an executive producer and director."

Which is some pretty decent pedigree in the creative side of things.

I’m a bit torn about this. Impressive names but I still can’t picture what the goal is.

It’s still kids stuff about a wizard, right? Or is it going to be a serious, high-brow, ‘prestige’ show now? That sounds god awful. Are they all going to be fucking and taking drugs?

It will be impressive if they make this not-shit, but I’m struggling to see how that will work.

Article in today's Guardian about the two mentioned above:

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2025/a ... ter-series

Mylod, the director, worked on things like The Royle Family, Shooting Stars and Ali G Indahouse which you may or may not like but at least point to him being more than just fucking and drugs.

Damn. That’s quite a list of credits. I just knew him as the Succession guy who happened to do the awful ‘The Menu’ movie. Suggests a bit of versatility I guess.

I suppose I imagined it being older Harry Potter kids and coming out like Skins, or whatever equivalent teen drama exists now, given so much of HBO stuff is just the ‘adult’ version of normal bullshit TV.

[Son of Mathonwy]

A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?

[cashead]

A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?

You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.

[Son of Mathonwy]

A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?

You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.

Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.

[cashead]

A Harry Potter TV series. Dear god. We've had 8 films (and a few more spinoffs). The films were good adaptations (about as good as could have been made from the source material) and were extremely popular. The show is a money-spinner, nothing more. I won't be watching.

The enormous amounts of money and time (to make and to watch) would be far better spent on something original, or something that has only been poorly adapted. In the same vein, how about The Dark is Rising books which clearly inspired the derivative Harry Potter and have only had a mediocre movie to date?

You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.

Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.

Wait until it becomes a zombie franchise that continues to outlive its creators, like LOTR, Anpanman, Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan or Dragon Ball.

[Son of Mathonwy]

You've answered your own question. The Harry Potter franchise makes shitloads of money at the end of the day, with the only Harry Potter thing underperforming being the most recent Fantastic Beasts movie (which was "based on a screenplay by JK Rowling" - i.e., her script was so fucking bad, they brought in Steve Kloves to hold her hand in a massive rewrite of her original screenplay, lol), and for the criticism Rowling being a gigantic piece of fucking shit gets, crap like Hogwarts Legacy made a cool billion dollars worldwide, with a massive marketing push from Warner Brothers.

Meanwhile, like you said, the Dark is Rising books got a film with a modest budget, and it still failed, and will remain where it is, until someone with clout and a vision comes along, it will remain largely unmined.

Yeah, it makes economic sense to milk the cash cow but creatively it's worthless. I hope it fails - the world needs no more Harry Potter in it.

Wait until it becomes a zombie franchise that continues to outlive its creators, like LOTR, Anpanman, Doraemon, Crayon Shin-Chan or Dragon Ball.

Yes, unfortunately I agree, given how big HP is (or has been) it will probably be one of those, a James Bond, a Star Trek or Wars, going on indefinitely.

[Numbers]

I'm not particularly interested in this but the one thing I would say is the "hanging scene" that's been referred to isn't a hanging scene as such, he just magics him into the air and turns him upside down, it has no similarity to hanging by a noose in any way that I can see.

[Puja]

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Not to mention that the visual of bullies calling a mixed-race actor "Mudblood" is going to be interesting.

Puja

[Which Tyler]

Not to mention that the visual of bullies calling a mixed-race actor "Mudblood" is going to be interesting.

That would work in its favour, I'd presume (though, just wait for the racists to be calling non-white mudblood in a "It's not racist, just a cultural reference - honest" afterwards)
For the jpg's point - it would require a little rewriting, but could easily be used as a learning opportunity and show growth for Ron and Harry - have Hermione actually convince them to be more active in SPEW(?). After all, it's not like the reader wasn't supposed to agree with Hermione in the books.

[Puja]

Not to mention that the visual of bullies calling a mixed-race actor "Mudblood" is going to be interesting.

That would work in its favour, I'd presume (though, just wait for the racists to be calling non-white mudblood in a "It's not racist, just a cultural reference - honest" afterwards)
For the jpg's point - it would require a little rewriting, but could easily be used as a learning opportunity and show growth for Ron and Harry - have Hermione actually convince them to be more active in SPEW(?). After all, it's not like the reader wasn't supposed to agree with Hermione in the books.

I will admit that it's been a very long time since I've read the books but I recall that SPEW was treated as a punchline (the acronym alone), with the narrative being that these slaves really enjoyed being slaves and didn't want to be freed. I don't think the reader was expected to agree with Hermione; I think they were expected to laugh at her.

ETA. Yup - a google says "the majority of house-elves were accustomed to their work and enjoyed it. They regarded Hermione's actions as insults to their race and refused to clean the Gryffindor common room any more". Which is a decent commentary on white-knighting and the importance of actually listening to the marginalised groups that you're advocating for rather than just deciding you know what's best, but is incredibly awkward when applied to literal chattel slavery.

Puja