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I feel sorry for America, and the world, mostly America, because 4 more years wasted on Trump being Trump, doing shit that makes him look good in his own warped, awful, sociopathic head, what a waste of 4 years. Hopefully the rest us (the world) can reduce the fallout on us from his narcissistic agenda.
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I’m about to leave for two months back home. Wish I could could be there for the treaty referendum action, but alas, I will be trying to catch Blue Cod but eating kahawai. And paua and mussels. I love the US but by fuck I miss cooking some fish and shellfish on a fire in the pissing rain in South Westland. It’s bare feet and an emergency raincoat time soon.J Dory wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:49 pm I feel sorry for America, and the world, mostly America, because 4 more years wasted on Trump being Trump, doing shit that makes him look good in his own warped, awful, sociopathic head, what a waste of 4 years. Hopefully the rest us (the world) can reduce the fallout on us from his narcissistic agenda.
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He's going to have to Bypass the senate to get gaetz and gabbard approved surely, signing off on a creep and a Russian asset is too much even for repsSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:04 pm It is looking more like Trump is going to Truss-up things - appointing idiots and zealots, no grown-ups to tell him he's going to break things. Like Truss and Kwarteng on acid, speed and steroids, with rocket boosters, riding an atom bomb into the heart of a star about to go supernova.
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It's certainly a test of US checks and balances. And the sanity of the Republicans. In a not-completely-insane US there'll be enough Republicans willing to join the Dems in blocking these calls.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 10:14 amHe's going to have to Bypass the senate to get gaetz and gabbard approved surely, signing off on a creep and a Russian asset is too much even for repsSon of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:04 pm It is looking more like Trump is going to Truss-up things - appointing idiots and zealots, no grown-ups to tell him he's going to break things. Like Truss and Kwarteng on acid, speed and steroids, with rocket boosters, riding an atom bomb into the heart of a star about to go supernova.
We'll see if anyone's willing to say no to Trump.
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This story gets even better - there were apparently a lot of right wing people at the auction, who were there looking to buy it to keep Jones on as host and his money-making hate train going, and they were able to bid way more money than The Onion, but the money was owed to the parents from Sandy Hook that he'd slandered, and they chose to forgive some of it to add to the Onion's bid so that they would win.morepork wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 8:58 pm Brilliant
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2 ... the-onion/
Jones was a fringe figure broadcasting in Austin, Texas in the 1990s and later built an audience of millions with a mix of opinion, speculation and outright fabrication. The company makes most of its money through an online shop selling vitamins and other products.
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Nice, enjoy, nothing wrong with fresh Kahawai. I miss the oceanmorepork wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 11:08 pmI’m about to leave for two months back home. Wish I could could be there for the treaty referendum action, but alas, I will be trying to catch Blue Cod but eating kahawai. And paua and mussels. I love the US but by fuck I miss cooking some fish and shellfish on a fire in the pissing rain in South Westland. It’s bare feet and an emergency raincoat time soon.J Dory wrote: ↑Thu Nov 14, 2024 10:49 pm I feel sorry for America, and the world, mostly America, because 4 more years wasted on Trump being Trump, doing shit that makes him look good in his own warped, awful, sociopathic head, what a waste of 4 years. Hopefully the rest us (the world) can reduce the fallout on us from his narcissistic agenda.

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It just gets better, JFK Jnr for health secretary. QAnon folks will be feeling fully validated.
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The scars of watching your uncle and dad getting whacked. The man actually needs help, rather than being a terrible human being is my take on him though I won't put my reputation on it
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To be fair to him, he has the same amount of medical training as Wes Streeting, ie none at all.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 15, 2024 7:54 pm The scars of watching your uncle and dad getting whacked. The man actually needs help, rather than being a terrible human being is my take on him though I won't put my reputation on it
Shame he isn't in charge of the environment - he'd be pretty good there . . . which is why he won't be let anywhere near it.
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I'd love to think this was true ie that the 'bullet ballots' (ballots where the voter filled in the presidential vote and nothing else) were freakishly and suspiciously high (but only in the swing states), suggesting an electronically manipulated count. According to this guy, Harris needs to call for a recount in those states (to reveal that there are no paper ballots matching those counted votes):
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
Probably wishful thinking from deep down the rabbit hole.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
Probably wishful thinking from deep down the rabbit hole.
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Linda McMahon. Fucking lol. Just… what?!
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Is that vinces wife or daughter? I can't look this shit up ffs
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Yeahhh, tbh, I don't see it. The Trump campaign was preparing for a loss with preemptive court battles and spurious claims of voter fraud - it wasn't the behaviour of a side that knew the fix was in. Plus, Trump's whole thing for a lot of people is his personal brand - wouldn't surprise me that a bunch of people came out for him and only him.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:07 am I'd love to think this was true ie that the 'bullet ballots' (ballots where the voter filled in the presidential vote and nothing else) were freakishly and suspiciously high (but only in the swing states), suggesting an electronically manipulated count. According to this guy, Harris needs to call for a recount in those states (to reveal that there are no paper ballots matching those counted votes):
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
Probably wishful thinking from deep down the rabbit hole.
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Yeah, the guy's point is that this kind of Trump-only vote was showing up in vastly greater numbers in swing states. I'd love to hear why this isn't being followed up by the Dems but if they don't I'm sure there's a very good reason. Like there are some big and unwarranted assumptions being used here.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:33 amYeahhh, tbh, I don't see it. The Trump campaign was preparing for a loss with preemptive court battles and spurious claims of voter fraud - it wasn't the behaviour of a side that knew the fix was in. Plus, Trump's whole thing for a lot of people is his personal brand - wouldn't surprise me that a bunch of people came out for him and only him.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:07 am I'd love to think this was true ie that the 'bullet ballots' (ballots where the voter filled in the presidential vote and nothing else) were freakishly and suspiciously high (but only in the swing states), suggesting an electronically manipulated count. According to this guy, Harris needs to call for a recount in those states (to reveal that there are no paper ballots matching those counted votes):
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
Probably wishful thinking from deep down the rabbit hole.
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Wife. Apparently she was ‘small business administrator’ or something last time out.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:32 amIs that vinces wife or daughter? I can't look this shit up ffs
So at least she and Trump have some existing working relationship to build on, other than both having taken a stone cold stunner.
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Reminds me of the adage that, if you are not an expert and think you have found an obvious answer to something, it is much less likely that you are a genius who has solved a problem that experts have struggled with, and much more likely that they know something that you don't.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:45 amYeah, the guy's point is that this kind of Trump-only vote was showing up in vastly greater numbers in swing states. I'd love to hear why this isn't being followed up by the Dems but if they don't I'm sure there's a very good reason. Like there are some big and unwarranted assumptions being used here.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:33 amYeahhh, tbh, I don't see it. The Trump campaign was preparing for a loss with preemptive court battles and spurious claims of voter fraud - it wasn't the behaviour of a side that knew the fix was in. Plus, Trump's whole thing for a lot of people is his personal brand - wouldn't surprise me that a bunch of people came out for him and only him.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 9:07 am I'd love to think this was true ie that the 'bullet ballots' (ballots where the voter filled in the presidential vote and nothing else) were freakishly and suspiciously high (but only in the swing states), suggesting an electronically manipulated count. According to this guy, Harris needs to call for a recount in those states (to reveal that there are no paper ballots matching those counted votes):
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
Probably wishful thinking from deep down the rabbit hole.
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I'd love it to be true, but I doubt it. And, even if it was true and it was possible to unequivocally prove, I don't know how much use it'd be - best case scenario would see President Harris vs a united Republican Congress meaning she could accomplish precisely nothing, leaving 4 years of deadlock before Trump/Musk/Vance swept to a landslide in 2028 because they'd had the election "stolen" and the Dems would have no comeback of, "Of course there's no electoral fraud, don't be ridiculous." No matter how iron-clad the proof, it wouldn't be accepted by a significant chunk of the Yankee population, let alone a Republican Congress, so there'd be no consequences.
And, of course, worst case scenario would be outright civil war.
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Because your best case is immeasurably better than what is about to happen to the US and the world. Even your worst case is the same thing a regular Harris victory might have brought.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:31 pmReminds me of the adage that, if you are not an expert and think you have found an obvious answer to something, it is much less likely that you are a genius who has solved a problem that experts have struggled with, and much more likely that they know something that you don't.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:45 amYeah, the guy's point is that this kind of Trump-only vote was showing up in vastly greater numbers in swing states. I'd love to hear why this isn't being followed up by the Dems but if they don't I'm sure there's a very good reason. Like there are some big and unwarranted assumptions being used here.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:33 am
Yeahhh, tbh, I don't see it. The Trump campaign was preparing for a loss with preemptive court battles and spurious claims of voter fraud - it wasn't the behaviour of a side that knew the fix was in. Plus, Trump's whole thing for a lot of people is his personal brand - wouldn't surprise me that a bunch of people came out for him and only him.
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I'd love it to be true, but I doubt it. And, even if it was true and it was possible to unequivocally prove, I don't know how much use it'd be - best case scenario would see President Harris vs a united Republican Congress meaning she could accomplish precisely nothing, leaving 4 years of deadlock before Trump/Musk/Vance swept to a landslide in 2028 because they'd had the election "stolen" and the Dems would have no comeback of, "Of course there's no electoral fraud, don't be ridiculous." No matter how iron-clad the proof, it wouldn't be accepted by a significant chunk of the Yankee population, let alone a Republican Congress, so there'd be no consequences.
And, of course, worst case scenario would be outright civil war.
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Unfortunately the US is now in the place that any future loss by the Republicans will be called a steal and will not be accepted. They only believe in one-way democracy. We have to assume they will talk up a civil war whenever things don't go their way.
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I'm not sure a lame duck administration of budget shutdowns and vetos would be better, certainly in the long-term. Sure it'd be better than the next 4 years is going to be, but it'd only defer the pain by 4 years (potentially making it worse) and would write the Democratic party off for decades to come.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 1:57 pmBecause your best case is immeasurably better than what is about to happen to the US and the world. Even your worst case is the same thing a regular Harris victory might have brought.Puja wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:31 pmReminds me of the adage that, if you are not an expert and think you have found an obvious answer to something, it is much less likely that you are a genius who has solved a problem that experts have struggled with, and much more likely that they know something that you don't.Son of Mathonwy wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:45 am
Yeah, the guy's point is that this kind of Trump-only vote was showing up in vastly greater numbers in swing states. I'd love to hear why this isn't being followed up by the Dems but if they don't I'm sure there's a very good reason. Like there are some big and unwarranted assumptions being used here.
I'd love it to be true, but I doubt it. And, even if it was true and it was possible to unequivocally prove, I don't know how much use it'd be - best case scenario would see President Harris vs a united Republican Congress meaning she could accomplish precisely nothing, leaving 4 years of deadlock before Trump/Musk/Vance swept to a landslide in 2028 because they'd had the election "stolen" and the Dems would have no comeback of, "Of course there's no electoral fraud, don't be ridiculous." No matter how iron-clad the proof, it wouldn't be accepted by a significant chunk of the Yankee population, let alone a Republican Congress, so there'd be no consequences.
And, of course, worst case scenario would be outright civil war.
Puja
Unfortunately the US is now in the place that any future loss by the Republicans will be called a steal and will not be accepted. They only believe in one-way democracy. We have to assume they will talk up a civil war whenever things don't go their way.
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LolMikey Brown wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 12:18 pmWife. Apparently she was ‘small business administrator’ or something last time out.paddy no 11 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 11:32 amIs that vinces wife or daughter? I can't look this shit up ffs
So at least she and Trump have some existing working relationship to build on, other than both having taken a stone cold stunner.
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80% of the Senate support Israel's genocide of the Gazans. And that's before the newly elected senators arrive.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... resolution
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... resolution
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Quite the power couple aren’t they?cashead wrote: ↑Wed Nov 20, 2024 6:27 pmShe's currently facing her own sex scandal lawsuit. Look up the Ring Boys scandal.
Part 1 of a podcast that does a pretty comprehensive dive into it
Here's Part 2.
Her husband, Vince McMahon is also currently embroiled in a sexual assault/trafficking trial. There's also an affidavit out there by a former WWE female wrestler who was drugged and raped by US military personnel and that got actively covered up by the WWE, while the victim herself was pressured into staying silent about it. It makes for some harrowing reading. This would have been during Linda McMahon's tenure CEO of the company.
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Gaetz stepping aside
A brief respite until the next crank is appointed
Hopefully gabbard, McMahon and hesgeth go the same way, that would be my preferred order also
A brief respite until the next crank is appointed
Hopefully gabbard, McMahon and hesgeth go the same way, that would be my preferred order also