Trump

[paddy no 11]

Dems not doing as well as they hoped in Congress. Overall it does appear less of a complete repudiation of Trumpism than had been expected. Perhaps that is partly explained by Biden being a pretty weak candidate. Either way almost 70M people voted for Trump which is staggering.

I'd say about 35M of them thinks socialism means gulag, thats what you're up against.....a gerrymandered system means the dems have to win clearly, like taking the title off a champ in his hometown

Looks like Philly will party tonight

[Sandydragon]

Georgia statement now on TV

Just under 9000 military ballots outstanding apparently, plus a handful of other votes.

There will definitely be a re-count.

Theres still potential for Trump to win this state. Wont be a problem when Pennsylvania declared.

[Digby]

Dems not doing as well as they hoped in Congress. Overall it does appear less of a complete repudiation of Trumpism than had been expected. Perhaps that is partly explained by Biden being a pretty weak candidate. Either way almost 70M people voted for Trump which is staggering.

And they're seen as having moved to the left with a lot of their Congressional appointments, and whatever the rights and wrongs of that it's a problem with a lot of voters, and there's no obvious solution to a lot of voters being a real problem. It's hardly all about Biden.

That said okay it's in safe seats, but into the Houses of Congress go the first openly gay black candidates and a trans candidate, so you can spin different messages off what's been achieved.

[Sandydragon]

7000 up now in Pennsylvania and just over 1000 in Georgia. Looking pretty safe unless there is something really odd in the wings.

Eric Trump, or Kimberly Guilfoyle, or Rudy Giuliani, or Steve Bannon, or...

I was thinking more of the military votes in Georgia. Don't think that's going to be such a problem in Pennsylvania.

[Digby]

7000 up now in Pennsylvania and just over 1000 in Georgia. Looking pretty safe unless there is something really odd in the wings.

Eric Trump, or Kimberly Guilfoyle, or Rudy Giuliani, or Steve Bannon, or...

I was thinking more of the military votes in Georgia. Don't think that's going to be such a problem in Pennsylvania.

At most that could be slightly odd, but it's hard to contest Rudy is really odd

[paddy no 11]

Dems not doing as well as they hoped in Congress. Overall it does appear less of a complete repudiation of Trumpism than had been expected. Perhaps that is partly explained by Biden being a pretty weak candidate. Either way almost 70M people voted for Trump which is staggering.

And they're seen as having moved to the left with a lot of their Congressional appointments, and whatever the rights and wrongs of that it's a problem with a lot of voters, and there's no obvious solution to a lot of voters being a real problem. It's hardly all about Biden.

That said okay it's in safe seats, but into the Houses of Congress go the first openly gay black candidates and a trans candidate, so you can spin different messages off what's been achieved.

and a QAnon candidate

[Sandydragon]

Dems not doing as well as they hoped in Congress. Overall it does appear less of a complete repudiation of Trumpism than had been expected. Perhaps that is partly explained by Biden being a pretty weak candidate. Either way almost 70M people voted for Trump which is staggering.

And they're seen as having moved to the left with a lot of their Congressional appointments, and whatever the rights and wrongs of that it's a problem with a lot of voters, and there's no obvious solution to a lot of voters being a real problem. It's hardly all about Biden.

That said okay it's in safe seats, but into the Houses of Congress go the first openly gay black candidates and a trans candidate, so you can spin different messages off what's been achieved.

and a QAnon candidate

Yeah, less good. We need to start looking at how to deal with such a corrosive false narrative like this (and all the others). Conspiracy theories have been doing the rounds for decades and are of all hues but the number of people who believe this rubbish is far too high.

[Banquo]

Eric Trump, or Kimberly Guilfoyle, or Rudy Giuliani, or Steve Bannon, or...

I was thinking more of the military votes in Georgia. Don't think that's going to be such a problem in Pennsylvania.

At most that could be slightly odd, but it's hard to contest Rudy is really odd

See Borat 2

[Digby]

Dems not doing as well as they hoped in Congress. Overall it does appear less of a complete repudiation of Trumpism than had been expected. Perhaps that is partly explained by Biden being a pretty weak candidate. Either way almost 70M people voted for Trump which is staggering.

And they're seen as having moved to the left with a lot of their Congressional appointments, and whatever the rights and wrongs of that it's a problem with a lot of voters, and there's no obvious solution to a lot of voters being a real problem. It's hardly all about Biden.

That said okay it's in safe seats, but into the Houses of Congress go the first openly gay black candidates and a trans candidate, so you can spin different messages off what's been achieved.

and a QAnon candidate

As ever the process is flawed and contradictory. Though looking at what has unraveled Trump should've walked this, if he'd just done 5 normal things at various points in the last 5 months he'd be the next President

[Digby]

I was thinking more of the military votes in Georgia. Don't think that's going to be such a problem in Pennsylvania.

At most that could be slightly odd, but it's hard to contest Rudy is really odd

See Borat 2

What can you expect from a cousin fucker

[Which Tyler]

Jared has deleted his entire twitter history...

[morepork]

Jared has deleted his entire twitter history...

I didn't think he used Twatter.

[Sandydragon]

And they're seen as having moved to the left with a lot of their Congressional appointments, and whatever the rights and wrongs of that it's a problem with a lot of voters, and there's no obvious solution to a lot of voters being a real problem. It's hardly all about Biden.

That said okay it's in safe seats, but into the Houses of Congress go the first openly gay black candidates and a trans candidate, so you can spin different messages off what's been achieved.

and a QAnon candidate

As ever the process is flawed and contradictory. Though looking at what has unraveled Trump should've walked this, if he'd just done 5 normal things at various points in the last 5 months he'd be the next President

Im inclined to agree. Biden is not a strong candidate. But Trump is an appalling human being. A mere pretence of competence would probably have been enough.

[morepork]

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/lo ... t/2587411/


Two Arrested With Guns After Police Get Tip of Convention Center Threat


The two men have not been identified. Police seized their SUV, which had stickers on it promoting the conspiracy theory QAnon


Police arrested two men in Center City Philadelphia late Thursday after receiving a tip that they were making threats against the Pennsylvania Convention Center, where the city's mail-in ballots were still being counted.

Police were told the men were coming up from Virginia armed with AR-15s, police sources said.

Police spotted the silver Hummer parked along North 13th Street, near the Convention Center. The SUV was decorated with stickers promoting the conspiracy theory QAnon.

Two bicycle officers approached the men, investigators said. Each man was carrying a firearm and another weapon was found in the vehicle, which they admitted belongs to them, police said.

A search revealed the men didn't have a license to carry a firearm in Pennsylvania, so each man was arrested, police said.

The identities of the two men have not been released. The FBI and Philadelphia police continued to investigate, police said.

Philadelphia has set up a massive vote-counting operation at the Convention Center, where mail-in ballots have been counted around the clock since Election Day. The count has drawn loud protests by supporters for both President Donald Trump and his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden.

[Sandydragon]

https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/lo ... t/2587411/


Two Arrested With Guns After Police Get Tip of Convention Center Threat


The two men have not been identified. Police seized their SUV, which had stickers on it promoting the conspiracy theory QAnon


Police arrested two men in Center City Philadelphia late Thursday after receiving a tip that they were making threats against the Pennsylvania Convention Center, where the city's mail-in ballots were still being counted.

Police were told the men were coming up from Virginia armed with AR-15s, police sources said.

Police spotted the silver Hummer parked along North 13th Street, near the Convention Center. The SUV was decorated with stickers promoting the conspiracy theory QAnon.

Two bicycle officers approached the men, investigators said. Each man was carrying a firearm and another weapon was found in the vehicle, which they admitted belongs to them, police said.

A search revealed the men didn't have a license to carry a firearm in Pennsylvania, so each man was arrested, police said.

The identities of the two men have not been released. The FBI and Philadelphia police continued to investigate, police said.

Philadelphia has set up a massive vote-counting operation at the Convention Center, where mail-in ballots have been counted around the clock since Election Day. The count has drawn loud protests by supporters for both President Donald Trump and his challenger, former Vice President Joe Biden.

Thank heavens that some people are still sensible and can recognise and report lunacy.

[Which Tyler]

Jared has deleted his entire twitter history...

I didn't think he used Twatter.

That'd be fair enough - and finally, something I have in common with him.
Seems really odd that anyone in Trump's inner circle doesn't use twitter - how does he communicate with anyone?

[morepork]

There are companies connected to the Trump campaign that are purchasing contact details of MAGAT sympathisers, asking them for money to support legal fees, and encouraging them to descend upon the counting effort in the convention center in the city.

That shit should not stand.

[morepork]

Jared has deleted his entire twitter history...

I didn't think he used Twatter.

That'd be fair enough - and finally, something I have in common with him.
Seems really odd that anyone in Trump's inner circle doesn't use twitter - how does he communicate with anyone?

He makes that "I'm taking a shit while I talk to you" whiney face and and drains your life force through the TV with his soulless eyes.

[Stom]

As I am with UK politics and Hungarian politics, I am again flabbergasted at the inability of the left to create a message that appeals to all.

It's simple. Tell everyone you don't believe in socialism. To the socialists, you tell them you don't believe in the concept of socialism as the world has moved on and our politics encompass something new.

To the rest, tell them you don't believe in socialism, you believe in the American dream bought forward into the 21st century. The idea that anyone can lift themselves up from the bottom all the way to the top, etc.

Jesus, it fits your policies, the only difference is you rid yourself of baggage. Hammer home the message of "American dream" "build yourself up", talk about the pastor, the church goer, the gun owners, the everyone.

Just couch everything in "AMERICA"!

[Galfon]

Can't see him giving a concession speech - which means he might be asked to vacate the W/House / escorted off... oh my.

[paddy no 11]

Can't see him giving a concession speech - which means he might be asked to vacate the W/House / escorted off... oh my.

Will he do the inaguration handshake

[Digby]

I didn't think he used Twatter.

That'd be fair enough - and finally, something I have in common with him.
Seems really odd that anyone in Trump's inner circle doesn't use twitter - how does he communicate with anyone?

He makes that "I'm taking a shit while I talk to you" whiney face and and drains your life force through the TV with his soulless eyes.

You and the demon sperm doctor are now of one mind, because that's just how stuff works.

And I'd still like to know how Jared got the money to save 666, because it still makes absolutely no business sense anyone would rescue the Kushners in that situation. My assumption in advance is he sold out his country and belongs in jail, but I've been wrong in my beliefs before

[J Dory]

That'd be fair enough - and finally, something I have in common with him.
Seems really odd that anyone in Trump's inner circle doesn't use twitter - how does he communicate with anyone?

He makes that "I'm taking a shit while I talk to you" whiney face and and drains your life force through the TV with his soulless eyes.

You and the demon sperm doctor are now of one mind, because that's just how stuff works.

And I'd still like to know how Jared got the money to save 666, because it still makes absolutely no business sense anyone would rescue the Kushners in that situation. My assumption in advance is he sold out his country and belongs in jail, but I've been wrong in my beliefs before

Netflix Dirty Money - Slum Lord Millionaire episode had something on it. They are in debt up to their eyeballs if I recall correctly.

[Sandydragon]

That'd be fair enough - and finally, something I have in common with him.
Seems really odd that anyone in Trump's inner circle doesn't use twitter - how does he communicate with anyone?

He makes that "I'm taking a shit while I talk to you" whiney face and and drains your life force through the TV with his soulless eyes.

You and the demon sperm doctor are now of one mind, because that's just how stuff works.

And I'd still like to know how Jared got the money to save 666, because it still makes absolutely no business sense anyone would rescue the Kushners in that situation. My assumption in advance is he sold out his country and belongs in jail, but I've been wrong in my beliefs before

I really hope the Trump family accounts are properly audited after all this is over. Could be interesting...

[Puja]

Georgia statement now on TV

Just under 9000 military ballots outstanding apparently, plus a handful of other votes.

There will definitely be a re-count.

Theres still potential for Trump to win this state. Wont be a problem when Pennsylvania declared.

It's worth noting that that figure of 8,900 military ballots is an absolute maximum - that's the number that they have sent out, not the number that are going to be returned. Turnout amongst serving military isn't always that high.

Puja