America

[Puja]

If only I could......

You'd have to be in decent shape to throw him anywhere

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

Why in the name of all the gods were you lifting a prop?

Puja

[Digby]

If only I could......

You'd have to be in decent shape to throw him anywhere

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

Craig Quinnell?

Also Craig was still quite athletic and wasn't hindered by bone spurs

[gransoporro]

If only I could......

You'd have to be in decent shape to throw him anywhere

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

You lifted 300 pounders???

Respect.

[Sandydragon]

You'd have to be in decent shape to throw him anywhere

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

Why in the name of all the gods were you lifting a prop?

Puja

Trumps only about 17 stone. Playing in Devon we had ball boys heavier than that.

[Sandydragon]

You'd have to be in decent shape to throw him anywhere

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

You lifted 300 pounders???

Respect.

Our heaviest lock was somewhere between 25-30 stone. That fucker didn’t get that far off the ground. Quite a few locks at the 20’stone mark though.

[Puja]

I’ve lifted heavier in a lineout.

Why in the name of all the gods were you lifting a prop?

Puja

Trumps only about 17 stone. Playing in Devon we had ball boys heavier than that.

He's more than 17 stone! I'm 5ft 10 and 18st and he is both taller and fatter than me. I'd be surprised if he's under 21st. Plus, I'd imagine that your jumpers were able to make a vertical leap higher than 3cm.

Puja

[Digby]

Why in the name of all the gods were you lifting a prop?

Puja

Trumps only about 17 stone. Playing in Devon we had ball boys heavier than that.

He's more than 17 stone! I'm 5ft 10 and 18st and he is both taller and fatter than me. I'd be surprised if he's under 21st. Plus, I'd imagine that your jumpers were able to make a vertical leap higher than 3cm.

Puja

I'm with Puja on this, no way he's below 20 stone, not even if fat weighs a lot less than muscle

[Son of Mathonwy]

Black CNN reporter arrested, white CNN reporter left alone.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... yd-killing

Police seem to be occupying the intersection of "racist" and "stupid".

Also "ignorant of the law".

[morepork]

JFC. I feel that John Q Law could benefit from some diversity training...

[Sandydragon]

Trumps only about 17 stone. Playing in Devon we had ball boys heavier than that.

He's more than 17 stone! I'm 5ft 10 and 18st and he is both taller and fatter than me. I'd be surprised if he's under 21st. Plus, I'd imagine that your jumpers were able to make a vertical leap higher than 3cm.

Puja

I'm with Puja on this, no way he's below 20 stone, not even if fat weighs a lot less than muscle

I’ll agree that most of our locks were able to propel themselves a short way off the floor. Still don’t think he’s that heavy but somehow I doubt that we will have reliable stats available.

[Sandydragon]

Some shit is going down.

There’s a report that a protestor was shot dead by some random bloke in a pick up truck.

This has potential to explode and Trump is utterly unable to grasp that it might be serious or has the skills to defuse the situation.

[Digby]

Some shit is going down.

There’s a report that a protestor was shot dead by some random bloke in a pick up truck.

This has potential to explode and Trump is utterly unable to grasp that it might be serious or has the skills to defuse the situation.

I heard that report too, lets hope for better than that 'fine people on both sides' garbage

[Mikey Brown]

He has no interest in defusing, whether he has the skills or not.

[Son of Mathonwy]

He has no interest in defusing, whether he has the skills or not.

Yup. Fuck human lives, it's all about political advantage.

[morepork]

Utter, utter piece of shit. Fuck this. Just fuck this.



...got too frisky or out of line, they would quickly come down on them, hard - didn’t know what hit them. The front line was replaced with fresh agents, like magic. Big crowd, professionally organized, but nobody came close to breaching the fence. If they had they would
have been greeted with the most vicious dogs, and most ominous weapons, I have ever seen. That’s when people would have been really badly hurt, at least. Many Secret Service agents just waiting for action. “We put the young ones on the front line, sir, they love it, and....

This place is collapsing under the weight of callous incompetence. White fucking trash can occupy a state capitol building armed to the teeth with assault weapons with impunity, but the cops target black folk for any perceived misdemeanour:

"In Louisville, multiple protests had also broken out since Taylor, a 26-year-old emergency medical technician, was shot and killed by police. When narcotics detectives broke down her door after midnight, her boyfriend fired a gun, thinking armed intruders had entered the home. Police shot Taylor eight times when they returned fire. They found no drugs."

They in fact, had the wrong house.

Time to get involved, I think.

[J Dory]

[Digby]

SCOTUS, just, came down on the side of law and the logic in rejecting the idea California's lockdown orders are putting an unconstitutional burden on religious lunacy. It was a 5-4 ruling with the Chief Justice siding with the so called liberals on the court.

The court's four other GOP appointees, Chief Justice Roberts apart, dissented, with three of them signing up to an opinion written by Kavanaugh, which by any fair definition is not only barking mad but basically ignores both the law and the question that was asked of the court. It doesn't really seem like it should be possible the ruling was so close, and it certainly doesn't seem cool that Kavanaugh and company can just go full retard because of the politics. No word on why one of the dissenting judges wouldn't sign up to Kavanaugh's opinion, probably he couldn't bring himself to be quite that shameful, and he didn't want the dressing down the Chief Justice handed to Kavanaugh in basically calling Kavanaugh a rancid liar.

[morepork]

SCOTUS, just, came down on the side of law and the logic in rejecting the idea California's lockdown orders are putting an unconstitutional burden on religious lunacy. It was a 5-4 ruling with the Chief Justice siding with the so called liberals on the court.

The court's four other GOP appointees, Chief Justice Roberts apart, dissented, with three of them signing up to an opinion written by Kavanaugh, which by any fair definition is not only barking mad but basically ignores both the law and the question that was asked of the court. It doesn't really seem like it should be possible the ruling was so close, and it certainly doesn't seem cool that Kavanaugh and company can just go full retard because of the politics. No word on why one of the dissenting judges wouldn't sign up to Kavanaugh's opinion, probably he couldn't bring himself to be quite that shameful, and he didn't want the dressing down the Chief Justice handed to Kavanaugh in basically calling Kavanaugh a rancid liar.

That is proper fucking mad. Kavanaugh is an idiot. An idiot for life. What a fetid backwater.

[Digby]

SCOTUS, just, came down on the side of law and the logic in rejecting the idea California's lockdown orders are putting an unconstitutional burden on religious lunacy. It was a 5-4 ruling with the Chief Justice siding with the so called liberals on the court.

The court's four other GOP appointees, Chief Justice Roberts apart, dissented, with three of them signing up to an opinion written by Kavanaugh, which by any fair definition is not only barking mad but basically ignores both the law and the question that was asked of the court. It doesn't really seem like it should be possible the ruling was so close, and it certainly doesn't seem cool that Kavanaugh and company can just go full retard because of the politics. No word on why one of the dissenting judges wouldn't sign up to Kavanaugh's opinion, probably he couldn't bring himself to be quite that shameful, and he didn't want the dressing down the Chief Justice handed to Kavanaugh in basically calling Kavanaugh a rancid liar.

That is proper fucking mad. Kavanaugh is an idiot. An idiot for life. What a fetid backwater.

I think I heard the whole thing is largely a waste of time with some changes to make gatherings voluntary as to size? But yep, it's full on banana republic time just looking at the behaviour of 3-4 of the judges

[Mikey Brown]

My god I really need to find some way to stop following NG this shit.

[Puja]

Jesus fuck America



Police going to a peaceful aid station, stealing the water and smashing the milk, then riot geared officers advancing on the people who paid for it with batons because they were filming them nicking the aid supplies.

Oh, and the mayor then leaping into the fray by claiming the bottles of white milk-looking liquid that's clearly milk that were smashed were actually molotov cocktails filled with petrol. Outstanding.

Puja

[Puja]

Puja

[Digby]

Puja

It's hardly wanton destruction of property, but it is destruction of property, and if you're going to be amused by destruction of property it's a bit weird to decry the loss of some bottles of milk.

[Puja]

Puja

It's hardly wanton destruction of property, but it is destruction of property, and if you're going to be amused by destruction of property it's a bit weird to decry the loss of some bottles of milk.

Milk is the easiest way to mitigate the damage of tear gas. Given the police have been summarily gassing peaceful protesters all across the country (including children in Seattle, I hear), yes, I am decrying them actively destroying an aid station that was there to help people who had been hurt.

A note, tear gas is banned in warfare by international treaty. It's a chemical weapon. US police are currently spraying it indiscriminately over crowds.

Puja

[Sandydragon]

Given the scale of the rioting most police forces in the world would be using tear gas to contain it.

The anger behind the rioting is very understandable but the longer it continues the greater the pressure to crack down which risks missing the point. It’s not the fault of the property owners that police allegedly unlawfully killed a black man.

There clearly a need to address the polices attitude to ethnic minorities in the US. But that doesn’t mean that the police there should ignore unlawful behaviour just because there’s outrage.