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Just sharing because morepork loves twitter so much.

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11 seconds Mikey. I lasted 11 seconds on that one. The whole day was punctuated by such withering cross examinations. It's taken all of this to get to a defense along the lines of "the Prez didn't mean any harm cos he is just a bit of a thick cunt."
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morepork wrote:11 seconds Mikey. I lasted 11 seconds on that one.
In which case I can present the phrase "medical size water tower" to you for perhaps the first time in your life?
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FFS...
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Mikey Brown wrote:Just sharing because morepork loves twitter so much.

Yes, oxygen chambers look exactly like litre water bottles.

So much for intelligent debate.
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The Senate is supposed to be composed of cool, forward looking heads.

You cannot possibly suggest they should tackle an issue while emotions fly high. That would be unamerican and against the principles of this great country.

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P.S.: while a lot can be said on the gun subject, tackling any issue on the back of an emotional wave is not the best way. B and his first majority did that a lot, and believe me it was not a good idea. Populism at work is an ugly way to tackle hard priorities.

P.P.S.: what do republicans stand for these days? Religious freedom (as long as you are Christian), defense of 2nd Amendment (to be precise, they defend the right to own and carry high power weapons of the individuals), pro life stance (that is antiabortion). So they are being coherent in this case.
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That doesn't surprise me in the least. Gun retards are their besties. You couldn't expect a cogent contribution from the fat clown right now as it would mean multitasking. What an irrelevance he is. He is focusing on more pressing matters, like squeezing some last coin out of his "brand" before the sun sets:


In its effort to sell off the lease to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, the Trump Organization has put together a glossy investor brochure complete with pictures showcasing the hotel's grandiose architecture, its central location and its spa's Himalayan salt chamber.
The hotel's biggest selling point though, according to a copy of the brochure seen by CNN, is the one thing that the Trump family insists it didn't take advantage of: profiting off foreign governments.

“Tremendous upside potential exists for a new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding of the asset,” reads the 46-page investor pitch for the Trump International Hotel, which was compiled by JLL Hotels & Hospitality

You have to laugh. Don't you...?
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morepork wrote:That doesn't surprise me in the least. Gun retards are their besties. You couldn't expect a cogent contribution from the fat clown right now as it would mean multitasking. What an irrelevance he is. He is focusing on more pressing matters, like squeezing some last coin out of his "brand" before the sun sets:


In its effort to sell off the lease to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, the Trump Organization has put together a glossy investor brochure complete with pictures showcasing the hotel's grandiose architecture, its central location and its spa's Himalayan salt chamber.
The hotel's biggest selling point though, according to a copy of the brochure seen by CNN, is the one thing that the Trump family insists it didn't take advantage of: profiting off foreign governments.

“Tremendous upside potential exists for a new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding of the asset,” reads the 46-page investor pitch for the Trump International Hotel, which was compiled by JLL Hotels & Hospitality

You have to laugh. Don't you...?
It's possible I'm misreading that sales pitch, but it seems to imply the opposite to what CNN's saying. "Tremendous upside potential for new owner... upon rebranding," suggests that they don't currently capitalise on government related business (which for a hotel in Washington has got to be quite a bit of the market).

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Correct, they claim they turned away $5M in business, but a new owner would not have to.

I have to say I do not find them credible, seen that the Trump hotel is a favorite stakeout of lots of journalists to spot “power players”.
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Puja wrote:
morepork wrote:That doesn't surprise me in the least. Gun retards are their besties. You couldn't expect a cogent contribution from the fat clown right now as it would mean multitasking. What an irrelevance he is. He is focusing on more pressing matters, like squeezing some last coin out of his "brand" before the sun sets:


In its effort to sell off the lease to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, the Trump Organization has put together a glossy investor brochure complete with pictures showcasing the hotel's grandiose architecture, its central location and its spa's Himalayan salt chamber.
The hotel's biggest selling point though, according to a copy of the brochure seen by CNN, is the one thing that the Trump family insists it didn't take advantage of: profiting off foreign governments.

“Tremendous upside potential exists for a new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding of the asset,” reads the 46-page investor pitch for the Trump International Hotel, which was compiled by JLL Hotels & Hospitality

You have to laugh. Don't you...?
It's possible I'm misreading that sales pitch, but it seems to imply the opposite to what CNN's saying. "Tremendous upside potential for new owner... upon rebranding," suggests that they don't currently capitalise on government related business (which for a hotel in Washington has got to be quite a bit of the market).

Puja

That might hold water if there wasn't a recent history of foreign dignitaries renting out huge spaces in the hotel. I agree that the article does try to squeeze to too hard though. Kushner has given many a member of the house of Saud a handjob in there. Bear in mind too that the White House was actively pushing for the next G7 to be hosted at Trumpet's Mar a Lago house of Tack a couple of months back. I think it's pretty safe to say they are for sale to the highest bidder in any context.
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morepork wrote:
Puja wrote:
morepork wrote:That doesn't surprise me in the least. Gun retards are their besties. You couldn't expect a cogent contribution from the fat clown right now as it would mean multitasking. What an irrelevance he is. He is focusing on more pressing matters, like squeezing some last coin out of his "brand" before the sun sets:


In its effort to sell off the lease to the Trump International Hotel in Washington, the Trump Organization has put together a glossy investor brochure complete with pictures showcasing the hotel's grandiose architecture, its central location and its spa's Himalayan salt chamber.
The hotel's biggest selling point though, according to a copy of the brochure seen by CNN, is the one thing that the Trump family insists it didn't take advantage of: profiting off foreign governments.

“Tremendous upside potential exists for a new owner to fully capitalize on government related business upon rebranding of the asset,” reads the 46-page investor pitch for the Trump International Hotel, which was compiled by JLL Hotels & Hospitality

You have to laugh. Don't you...?
It's possible I'm misreading that sales pitch, but it seems to imply the opposite to what CNN's saying. "Tremendous upside potential for new owner... upon rebranding," suggests that they don't currently capitalise on government related business (which for a hotel in Washington has got to be quite a bit of the market).

Puja

That might hold water if there wasn't a recent history of foreign dignitaries renting out huge spaces in the hotel. I agree that the article does try to squeeze to too hard though. Kushner has given many a member of the house of Saud a handjob in there. Bear in mind too that the White House was actively pushing for the next G7 to be hosted at Trumpet's Mar a Lago house of Tack a couple of months back. I think it's pretty safe to say they are for sale to the highest bidder in any context.
Oh no doubt that Trump et al are rooking the presidency for every cent they can possibly get away with and this hotel is almost certainly part of that, but was just confused as the sales brochure doesn't appear to be the Gotcha that they're presenting it as. He's done enough real shady stuff that no-one needs to stretch something like this out.

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Even NRA members are in favour of more gun control than Republicans are offering, the actual members don't hold to the same message as the NRA leadership, either on guns or providing such luxurious lifestyles for the NRA leadership
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Also, not that Fox News thinks Trump is guilty and doesn't therefore want coverage of the hearings, but they spent time discussing not the testimony but the amount of water George Kent drank whilst attending the hearing, said coverage was boring, and switched to another story, the big one about escaped boars in Italy
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cashead wrote:
gransoporro wrote:The Senate is supposed to be composed of cool, forward looking heads.

You cannot possibly suggest they should tackle an issue while emotions fly high. That would be unamerican and against the principles of this great country.

2ndAmendmentLuverBoi


P.S.: while a lot can be said on the gun subject, tackling any issue on the back of an emotional wave is not the best way. B and his first majority did that a lot, and believe me it was not a good idea. Populism at work is an ugly way to tackle hard priorities.

P.P.S.: what do republicans stand for these days? Religious freedom (as long as you are Christian), defense of 2nd Amendment (to be precise, they defend the right to own and carry high power weapons of the individuals), pro life stance (that is antiabortion). So they are being coherent in this case.
So when should gun legislation be discussed in the US? There fact that there have been enough masss shootings in the US this year that at one point, it was at a ratio of 1.24 shootings per day, should give you an idea of just how urgent gun control legislation is. But hey, I guess they need to earn their NRA blood money some how, right?
When?
Republicans should be the minority both in House and Senate. And they should not hold the presidency.
And you still will have the small issue of the SCOTUS.
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Can they pleeeze put Orange Bawbag up to testify? His live tweeting lacks a certain comic je ne sais quoi.
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Something impressive has just happened in the impeachment hearings. Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to Ukraine, who was undercut by Giuliani briefing against her until Trump fired her, is testifying today and what we already know she's going to say doesn't look good for the Donster. She's very highly thought of as a diplomat, an anti-corruption crusader. So, of course, Trump attacks her on twitter, (liveblogging the hearing that he is officially not watching because he's too busy with important Presidenty business).

Five minutes later, the chair of the hearing introduces that tweet as evidence of witness intimidation.

Even Fox News is impressed, with one of their anchors calling it "a turning point in the hearing. She was already a sympathetic witness and the President's tweet ripping her allowed Schiff to point it out in real time as witness tampering or intimidation."

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By far the bigger issue is her observation the Trump doctrine will undermine US State Department officials going after corruption
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Roger Stone has been found guilty on all charges, who knew!
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That was a shrewd move there Donnie. Well done.
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Brett Beier and Chris Wallace are NEWS anchors. They are marginal to the Fox News strategy.

When the Fox anchor that points out the errors (crimes?) of Trump will be Hannity or Carson, then it will be shocking.
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That is true. Only some of the anchors with potato heads and complexions are actually news people.
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Big Fat Don says the conviction of Stone is a massive double standard Vs a long list of people he thinks lied, always useful when the President is so strong on looking to undermine his own justice system, and I am a little surprised, I was half expecting Trump to say he barely knew Stone
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The bone spurs may turn out to be an inaccurate diagnosis if the real discomfort turns out to be a Stone in the shoe. Let us all raise a glass to the checks and balances inherent in a constitution that the Fanta Problem Child utterly fails to understand.
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Pelosi has chucked out some rancid bait that, if the Donster feels he's being unfairly maligned he can always come and testify in the impeachment hearing himself, which of course Trump has snapped up and tweeted about. Apparently he will "seriously consider it."

Unfortunately, his very competent team of lawyers, and also Rudy Giuliani, will slap that idea down as quickly as they possibly can, but I would *love* to see Trump take the stand. I'd give him about 10 minutes of sticking to the script that was written for him before his mind started to wander and he began bragging about how he was the best at securing the best deal by extorting foreign leaders.

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He is definitely stupid enough for the possibility of him taking it to be considered. Bear in mind too that he is now completely surrounded by some pretty underwhelming professionals. He might as well take his counsel from Prince Andrew. His defence at present consists of live tweeting Fox News.
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