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whatisthejava
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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OptimisticJock wrote:I thought SHC was going to Worcester?
The rugby pod fairly sure Bristol
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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whatisthejava wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:I thought SHC was going to Worcester?
The rugby pod fairly sure Bristol
Cheers. He could do better than both imo. I'd hang on to him personally
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OptimisticJock wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:I thought SHC was going to Worcester?
The rugby pod fairly sure Bristol
Cheers. He could do better than both imo. I'd hang on to him personally
Think he can do with a change of scenery. Probably best for him and Scotland but not Edinburgh
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Did Galbraith even get an appearance?

Suppose if he wasn't showing what was needed in training then it makes sense to cut loose now but surely the whole point in getting a pro deal from the academy is that he HAS in fact shown what was needed in training?
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Big D wrote:
OptimisticJock wrote:
whatisthejava wrote:
The rugby pod fairly sure Bristol
Cheers. He could do better than both imo. I'd hang on to him personally
Think he can do with a change of scenery. Probably best for him and Scotland but not Edinburgh
That's probably fair.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Interesting team. Fowles dropped altogether, Weir in to start and Ritchie in for Hardie. Ulster back three looks leathal so weirs kicking game had better be spot on.


15. Blair Kinghorn (61)


14. Dougie Fife (103)

13. Mark Bennett (8)

12. Phil Burleigh (71)

11. Duhan van der Merwe (14)


10. Duncan Weir (31)

9. Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (104)


1. Jordan Lay (8)

2. Stuart McInally (116) CAPTAIN

3. Simon Berghan (45)

4. Ben Toolis (84)

5. Grant Gilchrist (116)

6. Magnus Bradbury (49)

7. Jamie Ritchie (45)

8. Bill Mata (34)


Replacements: 16. Neil Cochrane (72) 17. Rory Sutherland (62) 18. WP Nel (113) 19. Lewis Carmichael (29) 20. Cornell du Preez (101) 21. Sean Kennedy (59) 22. Jaco van der Walt (14) 23. Chris Dean (63)
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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As much as I’m enjoying what he’s done I’ve got to say I’m a bit baffled as to what Cockerill’s idea of his best team is and how much it involves players who seemingly aren’t worth a contract.
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Marfo benched for Wastonians and Ford started for Melrose so they can't be far away from returning.
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Mikey Brown wrote:As much as I’m enjoying what he’s done I’ve got to say I’m a bit baffled as to what Cockerill’s idea of his best team is and how much it involves players who seemingly aren’t worth a contract.
I see your point, but I don’t think fielding players that are off at the end of the season is indicative of anything other than playing the best players he has available at this time.
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Edinburgh in Exile wrote:
Mikey Brown wrote:As much as I’m enjoying what he’s done I’ve got to say I’m a bit baffled as to what Cockerill’s idea of his best team is and how much it involves players who seemingly aren’t worth a contract.
I see your point, but I don’t think fielding players that are off at the end of the season is indicative of anything other than playing the best players he has available at this time.
That, tactics and rotation. VdW for example has played pretty much every game (and I think it is showing). Burleigh is a different sort of 12 to Dean too.

Also it would be daft to ignore them. Of course players that are off at the end of the year will play. What's cockerill supposed to do? He where exactly play the 10 or two centres that are joining in the summer.

From what has been said a while ago SHC was after a wage exceeding his current level of performance and both sides agreed to disagree.

On the team as picked, Bennett is a little lucky to be constantly ahead of Johnstone on performances this year.
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Poor start, but we are getting back in. 13-19 HT.
Ulster with 3 tries.
Weir scores through a very nice intercept.

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Good work by the big lads there.
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That is very cleverly done by Ritchie. Conceded the pen but saved a try and avoided being binned.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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How thick is Duncan Weir? That's utterly daft.
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2 point league swing there. He's a fucking idiot.
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Cost the game
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Our inability to create in attack is very concerning.


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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Can't handle pressure
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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Pathetic attack, even when it was close.

A pen try and a Weir intercept against the grain made for a flattering scoreline.

Starting to think the Edinburgh back 3 is a lot weaker than I initially thought. They were clueless in attack and defence.
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They are far from the best back threes in the league but at the same time its hard for the back three when there is fuck all happening from 10/12/13. Everyone and I mean everyone knows Edinburghs back play is basically hope Kinghorn does something. Relying on a 21 year old and a 22 year old in his 1st senior contract (was on academy contract in France) about sums up Hodges competence as a backs coach.

There is nothing coming from 12 ans Bennett has been so ineffectual lately and hasn't really justified his selection ahead if Johnstone.
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Big D wrote:Relying on a 21 year old and a 22 year old in his 1st senior contract (was on academy contract in France) about sums up Hodges competence as a backs coach.
Is that his fault, tho, or would it help if he had more to work with?

Anyway, it was a perplexing selection tonight. Just hope they get over the line. Could be a case of Glasgow playing the reserves!
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General Zod wrote:
Big D wrote:Relying on a 21 year old and a 22 year old in his 1st senior contract (was on academy contract in France) about sums up Hodges competence as a backs coach.
Is that his fault, tho, or would it help if he had more to work with?

Anyway, it was a perplexing selection tonight. Just hope they get over the line. Could be a case of Glasgow playing the reserves!
I'd say he is a decent part of the problem. He's been coaching most of these guys since the end of the last WC and had all bar VdW since the summer. There is a real lack of cohesion and at times it really was give it out wide and hope they do something.
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After signing a top 9 I'd say replacing Hodge is priority number 2 this summer.

If Edinburgh want to kick on it's what needs to be done.
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All the players seem to speak highly of Hodge and I've been hoping that it's a toonie scenario where something will change and suddenly we will be this inventive attacking force. I don't see it however as there is just nothing interesting about our attack. No one runs a slightly different line, you hardly ever see the wings or full back into midfield and nobody really threatens the fringes of the rucks.

For me the question is, what would it look like it you put someone like Russell at ten for that side? My guess is not that different because the way that the game plan is devised means that there aren't options for the decision makers. We rarely force defences to make decisions. That's down to the coaches so, sadly, I think it is time for a new attacking voice.
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Re: 1872 Cup Runners Up

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switchskier wrote:All the players seem to speak highly of Hodge
It's not great to publicly slate your boss though.
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